1972 OG 5,000 meter Final

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  • Опубликовано: 27 мар 2025
  • Watch one of the most competitive 5k races ever run in 1972 where Steve Prefontaine took the lead during the last mile starting a battle with the reigning OG 5K Champ Mohammed Gammoudi, OG 10K Champ Lasse Viren and Great Britain's Ian Stewart. The race was run on pure guts in the final mile inspiring the next generation of American Distance Runners.
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Комментарии • 365

  • @fredgilmore6740
    @fredgilmore6740 Год назад +38

    so cool to have the entire race in good quality AND with coleman's commentary

  • @PivotalRunning
    @PivotalRunning  2 года назад +67

    “I’m an artist, a performer. I want people to appreciate the way I run.”
    Steve Prefontaine

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu Год назад

      He is a loser who never set a WR or won an international medal.
      Luckily he died before the Africans took over completely.

    • @MrKLindholm
      @MrKLindholm Год назад +3

      Lasse Viren

    • @SkolVikings22
      @SkolVikings22 Год назад +3

      Go PRE

    • @riccardoromagnoli5852
      @riccardoromagnoli5852 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@AlMan42 He amounted to becoming a true legend in track and field and overwhelmingly admired after more than 50 years since he passed. This man is the Jimi Hendrix of distance running and I bet that Ian Stewart would give up his own bronze medal to have the worlwide recognition Pre still retains to this day.

    • @johnsrous1616
      @johnsrous1616 Месяц назад +1

      As great a runner as Steve Prefontaine was, you could ask many runners in this country now if they have ever heard of him and it's likely few if any have heard of him.

  • @richardl69
    @richardl69 2 года назад +33

    It's awesome to see a classic race with the Splits! Got some running to do, thank you for the inspiration video!

  • @adamhornbuckle2213
    @adamhornbuckle2213 Месяц назад +2

    I ran track in high school; the mile and 2 mile. I was competitive but not great, but Prefontaine was my inspiration. I remember watching this race on TV and crying when Pre did not win. Although I no longer race, I continue to run, not so much for health, but to satisfy my competitive needs, and Pre continues to be my inspiration. Every time I go to Eugene for a meet, I visit Pre's Rock, drive down to Coos Bay to visit his grave, and pay my respects to America's greatest distance runner.

  • @cosmosrunner
    @cosmosrunner 2 года назад +49

    Pre should have got the silver but went for the gold 😢. One of the great Olympic races. Thank you for uploading.

    • @cesarcoelho7227
      @cesarcoelho7227 Год назад +5

      Agree. & besides ran
      Many laps on 2& 3 lane . He defenetly ran more than 5000 meters 😢

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu Год назад +6

      Not even close to being one of the great Olympic races.
      Time was slow and Viren won easy.
      Prefontine was lucky to get 4th.

    • @aricaccetta3458
      @aricaccetta3458 Год назад +14

      @@RK-um9tuthis is a horrible take

    • @armandoandginaregalado5770
      @armandoandginaregalado5770 Год назад +7

      There were far more better runners then Pre on this day. He hadn't been "in a war" yet or really pushed until this race. Viren was clearly better.

    • @robford3211
      @robford3211 Год назад +2

      @cosmosrunner if Yifter ran the 5k Pre might have only been good for bronze

  • @kevinjames7012
    @kevinjames7012 Год назад +70

    “Gammoudi is bankrupt” David Coleman! What a commentator 👍🏻

    • @DavidGarcia-h5l
      @DavidGarcia-h5l 8 месяцев назад

      Guess... what !!!.. give time it's designed this way.. when that day comes .. remember I gave you the heads up... factomundo

    • @mikenealon4042
      @mikenealon4042 8 месяцев назад +1

      really burly

    • @Mac-ix4qp
      @Mac-ix4qp 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@mikenealon4042 Total cringe commentary. I laughed when I heard that one.

  • @garysmith3913
    @garysmith3913 2 года назад +15

    Thanks for putting this up! Great race.

  • @geofslagle410
    @geofslagle410 7 месяцев назад +42

    Every time I watch this, and I saw this live on TV in 1972 , I cheer Steve on thinking that he just might pull off the victory this time.

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama 7 месяцев назад +1

      Every time - and I too saw this live in 1972 - am equally happy that Viren won. Stewart's kick was great, too.

    • @dennispacelli1007
      @dennispacelli1007 7 месяцев назад +2

      SO TRUE Viren had him running an extra 30-40 meter's keeping him on the outside that was his strategy to make him run more. Steve was out of gas!

    • @teller1290
      @teller1290 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@PaulVinonaamaWasn't Viren blood doping at this time?

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@teller1290 I am not in a position to know for certain, but there is no evidence whatsoever.

    • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
      @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering 7 месяцев назад +1

      I’m glad he didn’t as it allowed Ian Stewart to run him out for the bronze medal .. sweeeet 👌
      👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @davewoodsford355
    @davewoodsford355 Год назад +9

    Thanks for posting.
    Amazing race.
    Remember watching it in 1972 when I was still at school.
    Pre made that race when he surged to the front with 4 laps to go.

    • @gary1961
      @gary1961 Год назад +1

      He needed to 'surge to the front' a lot sooner following such a slow opening mile. He may have split the field and stood a far better chance of being one of the medal men.

    • @marknorris1381
      @marknorris1381 Месяц назад +1

      @@gary1961 he definitely made his move too late. Had he done similar to what John Ngugi did in Seoul by throwing in a really fast 800 metre split early and dropped them all and then kept going at 64 second lap pace he would have walked away with the gold. He had the engine to do it. Hindsight is also a wonderful thing as well I suppose.

  • @DavidZartman
    @DavidZartman Год назад +10

    What I really came away with is how utterly strategic Viren was! He made so many calculated moves; he was watching every runner, and clearly knew their tendencies. He led early, to push some people out. But the move that was genius starts @11:18. That's when with three laps left he settles into 2nd place. He knows the pressure on Pre will burn his energy with a lot of race remaining. Then with 2 laps he effortlessly takes the lead. Pre moves too early @13:00 to retake lead and Viren just lets him do it. Then look at how Pre drops and Viren smoothly runs away with it. Painful to see Pre try desperately to stay with him and Gammoudi, literally sprinting after 4800 meters of world-class running. Maybe, just maybe if Pre had waited a hair on that he could have taken bronze. Viren just planned it right, Pre needed a bit more experience. What a race!

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama Год назад +3

      Yeah, but interestingly Viren (23 years) also wasn't terribly experienced.

  • @rondawgon
    @rondawgon Год назад +19

    Incredible, Viren runs a 56 in the last lap to win this 5000m and the 10,000m as well. Two Golds.

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад +3

      yeah was confirmed years later for blood doping...in todays testing he would have been disqualified

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama Год назад +5

      @@krakhour2 Please do not spread false information.

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад

      Not sure what your talking about can show you the documentation , So please show me your documentation@@PaulVinonaama

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama Год назад +2

      @@krakhour2 ??? OK just show your documentation then. But, frankly, I am sure that none exists, since it would certainly have been a major sensation here in Finland.

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад +2

      It was at the time . Finland was suspected back then and back then it wasn't illegal so that's why it wasn't headline news@@PaulVinonaama

  • @gary1961
    @gary1961 Год назад +57

    In an interview when he returned home to Oregon, Prefontaine admitted that he had run a terrible race and said he knew he was in trouble when they passed 2 miles at nearly 9 minutes.

    • @facepuller
      @facepuller Год назад +12

      Prefontaine set the American record of 13:22.8 in the 5,000 meters at the 1972 Olympic Trials in Eugene ! He should have done that time or better than that had he run his way !! I wonder what made him choose to lay back for most part of the race, it cost him dearly and us the Pre fans !

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama Год назад +7

      @@facepuller Yea but Viren had ran 13.19 and Puttemans (5th here) ran 13.13 after this race. 13.22 was not too special.

    • @chesterwilberforce9832
      @chesterwilberforce9832 Год назад +12

      He had a hell of a gas tank but not the stride length for a sprint at the end. The other guys just out kicked him.

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад +4

      in the movies (both Editions) his coach told him not to front run and wait till last mile. Even though he ran to the front in his Eugene qualifier and won in American record of 13.23. ..5 seconds faster.

    • @TCTUnlimited
      @TCTUnlimited Год назад +3

      ​@@facepullerBill Bowerman told him not to attack til the final mile so he could break the runners apart.

  • @ixamedia6572
    @ixamedia6572 7 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for posting the entire race with splits and live commentary!

  • @DarrenAyres-r2x
    @DarrenAyres-r2x Год назад +24

    Viren was some talent. 5k and 10k winner that year and same again 4 years later

    • @IndianOutlaw1870
      @IndianOutlaw1870 Год назад +4

      Yes, he was great. Gammoudi (silver here) was also great., winning four medals over the span of three different Olympic Games. He won a gold at Mexico City (1968).

    • @GeneTrujillo
      @GeneTrujillo 10 месяцев назад

      Known blood doper, freezing his red blood cells. It wasn't illegal then, but he was still a cheat.

    • @zagortenay33
      @zagortenay33 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yet everybody talks about an irrelevant guy called Prefontain. Very weird indeed...

    • @combatbeatdown
      @combatbeatdown 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@zagortenay33race happened over 50 years ago. Stay salty 😂

    • @MurrayPeeps
      @MurrayPeeps 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@zagortenay33arguably one of the most known distance runners of all time and you say irrelevant. Steve’s story is incredibly sad and a tale of what could have been. He made the sport relevant for a large chunk of this country and we are better for it. His rivals in this race were all timers and nobody is denying that. Pre stays relevant because we all wish he could’ve run in 76 and possibly beyond. The potential was immeasurable, especially with an all time great coach. Your comment speaks volumes about you. If you can’t find joy and inspiration from Pre because of some complex about the coverage he’s received long after his death, you’ve got some serious soul searching to do.

  • @wernerschneider4460
    @wernerschneider4460 Год назад +29

    Those were the times: An Olympic 5000 m-final without ANY runner from Kenya or Ethiopia. Unimaginable today.

    • @davd1986
      @davd1986 Год назад +5

      Or Uganda, Morocco and Algeria. Good luck trying to find a Belgian or Finn that can challenge for medals in any major track meet these days.

    • @AMP1987-e3t
      @AMP1987-e3t Год назад +2

      They didn’t show up till the late 70s early 80s and the rest is history they were more about the marathon at this time.

    • @mrgobrien
      @mrgobrien Год назад

      at these games the kenyans tended to avoid competitive races and pick easier ones (ones with lesser athletes in them in these games) - e.g. that made kip keino of kenya pick the steeplechase instead of this race (obviously a harder event outright but at these games it had weaker competitors) - it was a race which he easily won so a wise choice (i suppose olympic athletes don't owe anything to the spectators) - and i think yifter (ethiopia) had stomach trouble for this 5000m race (or his heat) - by the time he emerged from the toilet the race had started - hence he wasn't in it either - he had won a medal in the 10, 000m though.

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama Год назад

      Not quite. Kenyans had won 1500m, 3000m steeples and 10,000m in Mexico City 1968. In 1972 Kip Keino won the steeples.@@AMP1987-e3t

    • @juha2031
      @juha2031 10 месяцев назад

      How is steeplechase harder to win than 5000m​ for example? There is fewer steeplechase specialist but almost every long distance runner competes in 5000m and 10000m runs@@mrgobrien

  • @denniscoffey1247
    @denniscoffey1247 2 месяца назад +1

    'Like the Duke of Plaisitoro leading from behind" Love the Gilbert and Sullivan reference!

  • @stevedynell3330
    @stevedynell3330 Год назад +24

    Viren ran intelligently and almost always avoided the additional meters on the curves, by running them normally close to the track's inner edge. Besides, he maintained a steady running rhythm. Gammoudi, then 34, ran bravely but accumulated extra meters by running many curves wide. Stewart lost contact with Viren, Gammoudi+Prefontaine with over 400 meters to go, and despite his terrific final kick, he was only able to clinch the bronze medal. Prefontaine tried to exhaust the other runners during the last 1,600 meters, but he had run many curves wide+shifted his position too often. Viren managed to accelerate even faster+thus exhausted Prefontaine.

    • @GeneTrujillo
      @GeneTrujillo 10 месяцев назад +4

      All those extra frozen red blood cells really assisted Viren!

    • @Mac-ix4qp
      @Mac-ix4qp 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@GeneTrujillo Exactly. No way he would have placed like he did in those races without blood doping. He played dumb about it, though. "What is hemoglobin?"

    • @dennispacelli1007
      @dennispacelli1007 7 месяцев назад

      In a nut-shell!

    • @smc9291
      @smc9291 Месяц назад

      @@Mac-ix4qphe was the world record holder!

    • @Ruda-n4h
      @Ruda-n4h Месяц назад

      @@Mac-ix4qp There's no evidence for your assertion.

  • @minolta7i
    @minolta7i 2 года назад +20

    What was sad was that Ethiopian runner Miruts Yifter (who had placed 3rd in the 10K) was unable to run in this final because for some unknown reason he was unable to get to the starting line of the heat he was scheduled to run in!

    • @mrgobrien
      @mrgobrien Год назад

      yifter had stomach trouble and had to visit the toilet for some time - by the time he could come out his race had already started - i think that is what happened anyway.

    • @holzkiewuf
      @holzkiewuf 10 месяцев назад +2

      I think I read he missed the bus from Olympic village to track, so he ran there but went to wrong gate and they wouldn’t let him in (security pretty high by this point). By the time it all got worked out the race had started. Maybe stomach issues made him miss bus initially?

    • @DavidGarcia-h5l
      @DavidGarcia-h5l 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mrgobrienthis s good example of why track and field is unfair and unpredictable to many variables to contend with the 4 years of hard work and anticipation the qualifying heat s etc etc etc ..😮

  • @hvymettle
    @hvymettle Год назад +21

    Pre had stated that “The best pace is a suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die.” Pre's plan had been to draft behind the rabbits setting the pace but they never materialized. Pre knew that a slow pace favored the big kickers at the end so he pushed to the front for the last mile and ran a 4:04, negatively splitting the race. Pre ran to win the race, not to medal.

    • @mrgobrien
      @mrgobrien Год назад +2

      yes - the problem was everyone expected david bedford to lead and set the pace (he tended to) - when he didn't it confused everyone - but as i say that applied to many athletes in the race including ian stewart - (i am british and vaguely knew ian stewart as we ran for the same club but in different eras)
      stewart said he felt like he wanted to throw his bronze medal into the crowd afterwards since he only wanted gold - stewart also said that when pre baulked him (see at about 650 metres left in the race - 11 minutes 48 in the race - 12 minutes 56 in the video) it cost stewart the gold - looking at it now i don't think that is true though but it is what stewart said .

    • @dennispacelli1007
      @dennispacelli1007 7 месяцев назад

      Great point! Not degrading him but it is true 'he didn't know how good these guys were!' He ran many more meter's than he should have watching him trying to position himself PLUS this is a GRUELING event!

    • @DavidGarcia-h5l
      @DavidGarcia-h5l 7 месяцев назад

      @@hvymettle well guess what!!! HE GOT HIS WISH..the EGO DIED sooner than needed...he was unable to deal with the FACTOR of what goes up will come down.. regardless

    • @DavidGarcia-h5l
      @DavidGarcia-h5l 7 месяцев назад

      @@hvymettle HE WAS DOOMED NO MATTER HOW YOU WANT TO SHAKE IT ... there was more talent to deal with. And SIR LASSE VIREN IS THE GOAT OF HIS TIME..he was the QUEEN 's KNIGHT.. until CAESAR EL GUERRERJ came to the party years later he now stands as the GOAT..20 YEARS PENDING for the next Savior

    • @jeffkaufman9875
      @jeffkaufman9875 5 месяцев назад

      @heavy SOUNDS great, until you come up short on medaling in the Olympics, AND with your ulterior personal goals, as Pre did on that day…

  • @virgilioisaaccabreravelazq8842
    @virgilioisaaccabreravelazq8842 Год назад +10

    Uno de los 5000 más grandes d ela historia olímpica, Viren, Puttemans, Prefontaine, Gammoudi, Stewart, qué corredores. Una gema de estos juegos junto con el inolvidable 10,000. Todos son inmortales del atletismo. Gracia spor poner los parciales, ilustran las estrategias que se desarrollaron y nos da una idea de qué velocidad final tenía Viren ¡¡¡4 minutos los últimos 1600 metros!!! aun ahora es asombroso

    • @dennispacelli1007
      @dennispacelli1007 7 месяцев назад

      Ingebregsten just ran a final 3:53 mile on his way to a 13:13 He too needs to race the first 2 miles a bit faster then push it the final 1.1 mile for a LOW 13:00 5,000m

  • @marinelaeftene246
    @marinelaeftene246 2 месяца назад +1

    Superba și extraordinara cursa...din România Nadiei Comăneci, transmit felicitări sportivilor și celor care au făcut posibila vizionarea cursei...m-am născut în 1970 iar cursa este, chiar și acum, fantastica...

  • @writethisthat3613
    @writethisthat3613 Год назад +11

    David Coleman an amazing announcer!

  • @timmares8931
    @timmares8931 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for posting splits!!!!!! Well done!!!!!! Thank you. It’s why I clicked but already did it

  • @agardad386
    @agardad386 10 месяцев назад +17

    Lasse Viren, one of the best.

  • @miggylobos1
    @miggylobos1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for uploading this, I remember I bought the race on a burned DVD on ebay some twenty years ago. Also thanks for the split times.

  • @fred53728
    @fred53728 7 месяцев назад +4

    For Prefontaine. The win or nothing. He thought he got nothing, except for the respect of everyone watching today and for years to come.

    • @raffaojeda
      @raffaojeda 6 месяцев назад

      not patience at the las lap specuially.

    • @hawaiisown5064
      @hawaiisown5064 6 месяцев назад

      Yup. I'll always remember R. Lee Ermeys line - "You could have run for the bronze, you could have run for the silver. You ran to win. I couldn't ask for more from an athlete."

  • @MartyBRuns
    @MartyBRuns 7 месяцев назад

    Love the brutally honest and colorful commentary about how slow the race was

    • @theothersite1453
      @theothersite1453 19 дней назад +1

      If they had had any idea how fast Viren could finish, I think they would have pushed the pace earlier on.

  • @kenthandersson3861
    @kenthandersson3861 7 месяцев назад +4

    👏✌️✊️ to Finland from Sweden 🙂

  • @Jarppispecial
    @Jarppispecial 3 месяца назад

    That FRONT picture is 100% awesome, it +simply shows the DETERMINATION ON THE RUNNER FACES VAMOS !! !!
    and nothing else.

  • @16nowhereman
    @16nowhereman 2 года назад +11

    I remember watching this olympics live and thinking, "this Viren guy is unbeatable.> He ran smart races."

  • @facepuller
    @facepuller Год назад +23

    Pre, was an advocate of front running and I am still boggled why he decided to run any different that day from how he ran all his life !! I do not say he'd have surely won gold with front running but for sure a silver or bronze ! He was bloody damn good.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu Год назад +3

      Because he was scared. Also, a best of 13:22 which was 8 seconds off the world record is hardly "bloody damn good."

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад

      Least he wasn't blood dopping like several of the Europeans and the Europeans paid to have their athletes train only while USA makes Prefontaine live off food stamps and work part time in a pub while trying to train. Yes he was great runner but had a lot of stuff caused by the AAU stacked against him. Now big shoe companies pay for runners to train only like the Nike Oregon project.@@RK-um9tu

    • @BlackMan614
      @BlackMan614 Год назад

      @@RK-um9tu World record was set in '65 and was 6 seconds faster. Prefontaine had the 4th fastest time that year. Viren didn't break the world record until after this race. Idiot.

    • @rodswift3423
      @rodswift3423 Год назад

      @RK-um9tu How far away is gold medalist Mo Farah's 5k PR from Cheptegei's WR 5k time? Does the fact that it's about 18 seconds mean your logic sucks?

    • @gary1961
      @gary1961 Год назад +2

      @@RK-um9tu At the time of this race, the World Record was held by Ron Clark with a time of 13 minutes 16 seconds. So Prefontaine's PB was 6 seconds off the World Record, not 8 seconds.

  • @jjr_machines
    @jjr_machines Год назад +1

    Thank you for this!

  • @peterwhite7428
    @peterwhite7428 Год назад +5

    Pre was a great great runner, and he was just learning how to run international races at this point in his short life

    • @theothersite1453
      @theothersite1453 19 дней назад

      Just 1 years old at the time. Bartending for a living.

  • @rentslave
    @rentslave Год назад +7

    That summer,Pre said that he wanted to pass 2 miles in around 8:25.Why he failed to attempt it will always remain a mystery.The extra day off helped Viren.

    • @gary1961
      @gary1961 Год назад +2

      4:15 per mile for the three miles, plus 30 seconds for the 200 metres would have given 13:15 and the gold medal plus a world record. He was capable of it but just didn't seem to push for anything like that.

    • @mrgobrien
      @mrgobrien Год назад +1

      viren had run the 10,000 heat and final so that helped pre rather more i think.

    • @467076
      @467076 Год назад +3

      @@mrgobrien Viren had ran the 10k with a new world record.

    • @mrgobrien
      @mrgobrien Год назад

      @@467076 thanks - i didn't know that.

  • @wvu05
    @wvu05 Год назад +5

    A lot of people like to talk about the what if had Prefontaine gone out faster, but I think that the _real_ what if is if Yifter had gone to the correct gate or gotten it cleared up to get into the stadium to run the race. With a start that slow, I think that the gold would have been his with his blistering kick.

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama Год назад

      Hardly gold. Look at what happened in the 10,000m in the same Olympics.

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 Год назад +1

      @@PaulVinonaama You mean a world record performance where Bedford led off the first few kilometers averaging less than 64 seconds per lap? The 5000 averaged 67 until the last mile. That's ready to order for a kicker.

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama Год назад

      @@wvu05 In the 10K, the "less than 64" laps were only the first four. Twenty slower laps (mostly above 67) followed, giving plenty of time to recover. And wouldn't the fast last mile in the 5K also have burnt some of Yifter's kicking abilities? What I have seen of his kicks lasted only for the last 300m or so (moreover, I don't know if he was such a phenomenal kicker already in 1972). Of course we shall never know, but I think he might have been a medal contender here but not for gold.

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 Год назад

      @@PaulVinonaama The fast final might have burned some of his kick, but the 10K burned his kick because it was a longer race that literally set a world record. The 5K was ten seconds slower than the world record. The amount of oxygen debt in each of the races makes it clear that 67-second 10K laps are much more difficult than 67-second 5K laps. For elite runners, anything faster than 10 mile or half marathon pace will involve some oxygen debt, and there is a limit to how much you can handle. With those first few laps in 61-64-64-64-64, you don't recover when you're still building more debt. Yifter's chances for gold in the 10,000 were destroyed in the first mile, but it never got that fast that early in the 5000.

  • @Listermintsluesh
    @Listermintsluesh 4 месяца назад +2

    Great race 💪

  • @hyperthreaded
    @hyperthreaded Год назад +26

    Pre ran the entire race on lane 2 except a few times when he took the lead temporarily. So basically Pre didn't run 5,000 meters, he ran 5,100 meters. Viren ran the entire race on the inside lane except about 20 meters on the last half-lap when he overtook Gammoudi to take the lead and win. So Viren didn't really run any faster, he ran smarter.

    • @chesterwilberforce9832
      @chesterwilberforce9832 Год назад +2

      Which is not typical of him. He made sme bad decisions too early in the race and paid for it. He knew he couldn'
      t outkick these guys at the end after running so much farther than them.

    • @DavidGarcia-h5l
      @DavidGarcia-h5l 8 месяцев назад

      Do you understand why!

    • @dennispacelli1007
      @dennispacelli1007 7 месяцев назад

      YES!

    • @DavidGarcia-h5l
      @DavidGarcia-h5l 7 месяцев назад

      @@hyperthreaded you big foolish doe doe!!!.. OMG

    • @DavidGarcia-h5l
      @DavidGarcia-h5l 7 месяцев назад

      @@hyperthreaded obviously you are not a elite distance runner.. you don't get it on how it all works... best to listen closely.. rather than talk

  • @wesleytwiggs7687
    @wesleytwiggs7687 2 года назад +11

    The greatest America ever had, truly.

    • @aldopedroso6212
      @aldopedroso6212 2 года назад +7

      ??? Schul WON the Olympics in '64, Pre didn't even medal. Not even best American distance runner of these Olympics, Shorter won the marathon. Great talker though, said he would run 4:00 for the last 4 laps and put crap in the competitors legs. After beating him for the bronze Stewart asked what made him think he was the only one who could do that,

    • @wesleytwiggs7687
      @wesleytwiggs7687 2 года назад +4

      @@aldopedroso6212 I know all that. I still think pre’s legacy is superior.

    • @aldopedroso6212
      @aldopedroso6212 2 года назад +3

      @@wesleytwiggs7687 So America's greatest legacy, not greatest 5000 runner... marketing not talent. Got it.

    • @wesleytwiggs7687
      @wesleytwiggs7687 2 года назад

      @@aldopedroso6212 dude who gives a fuck. Relax.

    • @aldopedroso6212
      @aldopedroso6212 2 года назад

      @@wesleytwiggs7687 Who gives a fuck about Pre? No idea.

  • @Acura1NSX
    @Acura1NSX Год назад +15

    Pre unfortunately used up what he had for the final kick on tbe back stretch.

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад +1

      still ran a 4.03 last mile...What more could he do

    • @mrgobrien
      @mrgobrien Год назад +1

      yep - pre shouldn't have waited a little more - easy to say in hindsight though of course.

  • @MrGotair
    @MrGotair 2 года назад +8

    RIP PRE

  • @thomas1630
    @thomas1630 Год назад +5

    Whats weird is only 7 years prior to this Pre was playing football saw some runners and and thought it was stupid. How does that happen so quick.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu Год назад +4

      7 years is not a short amount of time when you are 21 years old.

  • @davidkaiser
    @davidkaiser 7 месяцев назад

    Pretontaine gave it all he had. It wasn't enough.
    I will never forget hearing about his death on the radio a few years later--an awful shock.

  • @Traviskula
    @Traviskula 2 года назад +6

    Where did you get this footage? I've never found film of this race from the very beginning, only starting midway.

    • @PivotalRunning
      @PivotalRunning  2 года назад +14

      I found this at my parents house while going through old videos.

    • @PrentisHancock1
      @PrentisHancock1 2 года назад +6

      @@PivotalRunning WOW! This is a spectacular find! Thanks for uploading it in such a high quality. I would have loved to have had this when I was making my documentary on Ian Stewart! You've filled in my knowledge gap on the first 4 laps!

    • @gary1961
      @gary1961 2 года назад

      @@PivotalRunning I don't suppose you have the two heats of the 5000 metres? They would be very interesting to watch.

    • @rundreamachieve
      @rundreamachieve 2 года назад +4

      @@PivotalRunning Thanks for the share. Prefontaine made that race

    • @martywennblom
      @martywennblom 2 года назад +3

      @@rundreamachieve Your Welcome Nate! Totally agree. I hope you enjoyed the splits as well. Thank you for your service to USA. All the best!

  • @chilloutvibesforyou
    @chilloutvibesforyou 9 месяцев назад +1

    I remember watching it live!

  • @NedLudd717
    @NedLudd717 Год назад +1

    What a race

  • @stevemaggard5866
    @stevemaggard5866 3 месяца назад

    I am no distance running guru, but I’m sure the slow pace had a lot to do with setting up the best kickers in the world for that last lap, the pre-was the one that made the race interesting with his guts

  • @mxRian4
    @mxRian4 Год назад +3

    13:24 did he say “the chunky American driving for home”?

  • @marco27c1
    @marco27c1 7 месяцев назад +1

    Today's world record holder would have almost lapped them all.

  • @mrgobrien
    @mrgobrien Год назад +1

    looks like bedford had a haircut between the 10,000 and 5,000 - i couldn't pick him out at first.

  • @charliewatkins4571
    @charliewatkins4571 Месяц назад +1

    Oh how times have changed.

    • @usa26point2mileman
      @usa26point2mileman 28 дней назад

      It depends. Matthew Centrowitz won the 1500 M with a 66 second first lap at the Olympics in RIO in 2016.

  • @DanPSpringer_Pensacola_Realtor
    @DanPSpringer_Pensacola_Realtor 7 месяцев назад +1

    Although I don't think it would have guaranteed the gold, I think Pre's best bet was to run "his race", or to take the lead early and hold it, or at least to stay in lane 1, avoiding the extra distance from running on the outside. I wish we could see this race again, with Pre running all out, the whole distance, and without running the extra distance from being in lanes 2 and 3.

  • @Seiji96
    @Seiji96 2 месяца назад +1

    Who else is here after reading Shoe Dog by Phil Knight?

  • @mrgobrien
    @mrgobrien Год назад

    12:05 - belgium and britain has similar olympic outfits for some time - like here it often caught out commentators and tv viewers etc.

  • @stevemaggard5866
    @stevemaggard5866 3 месяца назад

    I know this sounds weird but every time I watch that race again I am rooting for pre-and feel bummed in the end when he doesn’t win in phase to not get on the metal stand even though I’ve watched it hundred times and no very well. the outcome well, I was a kid growing up in Eugene, Oregon at the time, and idolize him

  • @Finarphin
    @Finarphin Год назад +3

    At the 10 minute mark (in the race) I started Chariots of Fire on another tab.

  • @Imslightlyobnoxious
    @Imslightlyobnoxious 2 года назад +10

    It appears to me that Pre gave up with about 200m remaining, knowing that gold was out of reach, and began looking around, to protect his medal standing.

    • @garyhanson638
      @garyhanson638 Год назад +3

      He started his sprint 200 meters too soon, he went empty into the 3rd turn. If he held pace thru the backstretch he would have had his all give vs Viren over the last 200.

    • @tylsimys67
      @tylsimys67 Год назад +2

      @@garyhanson638 There was no strategy nor athlete to beat Viren in 1972 and 1976. All kudos to his good friend Brendan Foster, a wonderful competitor and a gentleman.

    • @anton88ist
      @anton88ist Год назад +4

      He did not give up, he was completely spent and did not have anything left in the tank.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu Год назад

      Appears to me that Pre ran out of gas and was lucky to finish 4th.
      In a time that was 6 seconds slower than his AR.
      And 12 seconds slower than the WR.

    • @chidoquest8759
      @chidoquest8759 Год назад +2

      Gave Up? Wow dude! Have you ever been in a middle distance race before? My guess is NO. Pre gave it everything he had, he pushed it to the wall. That was a race car that ran out of gas on the home stretch.

  • @emmettorafferty1006
    @emmettorafferty1006 7 месяцев назад +1

    I would like to work it out so that in the end it comes down to a pure guts race if it is I can win it Steve Prefontaine 🎉

  • @peters6119
    @peters6119 6 месяцев назад +2

    Pre started to go and then he backed off. Then he started to go again and he backed off again. It was like he thought he could take them if he waited for the last 100m. He was probably surprised that they had more sprinting speed than he did. It's too bad he didn't get another chance in 1976 when he would have been older and stronger.

  • @mrgobrien
    @mrgobrien Год назад +1

    little known fact - the twin brother of the co-commentator to this race was shot dead in a terrorist attack the following year - and i don't think he could ever publicly bring himself to mention it - the bond between twins i suppose.

    • @bazza-e9t
      @bazza-e9t 5 месяцев назад

      Thought it was Norris. 75 his twin was assassinated.

    • @bazza-e9t
      @bazza-e9t 5 месяцев назад

      For UK viewers, David Bedford was the inspiration for the 118 118 adverts.

    • @mrgobrien
      @mrgobrien 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@bazza-e9t by coincidence bt (falsely) claimed (the long dead) steve prefontaine was the inspiration for the 118 men in the tv adverts - but were forced to settle the court case brought by bedford (for a start prefontaine obviously spoke with an american accent and the 118 men were clearly british and ran in the bedford style not how prefontaine ran and had long black hair not long brownish hair etc).

    • @bazza-e9t
      @bazza-e9t 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@mrgobriendid not know that, very sly, deceased won't sue.

  • @jussitarponen1919
    @jussitarponen1919 Год назад +2

    i first saw this race in the black- white- television, when i was about seven years old, later there were a plenty of runners who could have made a new world record under ron clarke´s 13. 16, 6, but the speed was in the early meters too slow

  • @platinumjeweler
    @platinumjeweler 2 месяца назад +1

    The slow pace during the first half of the race doomed Pre's chances. The kickers had their way even though Pre-made the race and another man won it.

  • @huskerjpg
    @huskerjpg 8 месяцев назад +1

    My first Olympics.

  • @rentslave
    @rentslave 11 месяцев назад

    In 1980,I saw Herb Lindsay beat Viren at Jackie Kennedy's farm in NJ.
    The "boys" must have given Viren an offer that he couldn't refuse.

  • @PaulVinonaama
    @PaulVinonaama 2 года назад +2

    Väätäinen had lumbago, as far as I remember.

  • @timhubert9862
    @timhubert9862 Год назад +2

    Lasse was a bad ass in the day

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад

      druggie....blood dopping

  • @deanmickiewicz495
    @deanmickiewicz495 2 года назад +9

    Pre should not have been running in the 2nd lane for half the race. He would have at least got 3rd.

    • @facepuller
      @facepuller Год назад +4

      He should have done his thing, front run from the start flat out ! That appalling pace was not Pre's thing, he shoukd have gone with his instincts instead of doing what he'd never done his life, run in a pack ! 😢

    • @Ruda-n4h
      @Ruda-n4h Год назад

      @@facepuller It was a great shame he didn't get a medal.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu Год назад

      Pretty clearly you know nothing about track
      He was too afraid to take the lead
      And didn't want to get box-in

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu Год назад

      @@Ruda-n4h No it isn't. He is a loser...

    • @whahappened8398
      @whahappened8398 Год назад +1

      @@RK-um9tu Your logic is asinine. And by your logic, Viren must have also been afraid as he also did not take the lead until well into the race.Of course neither men were afraid, its simply a matter that championship racing at Olympic level often regulates the pace by the sheer daunting gravity of the event. It matters not how well you plan your race in an Olympic final, all bets are off when the starters pistol fires. Viren was unbeatable and Pre was as brave as a runner could be.

  • @AMP1987-e3t
    @AMP1987-e3t Год назад +2

    Prefontaines lack of patience cost him this race even though he was facing off against the best in the world at that time.

  • @johnstirling6597
    @johnstirling6597 2 года назад +6

    Would have liked to see what might of happened if Bedford had really tried to break it open between 2 and 4 k, but then he was probably worn out from the 10k and 5k heats.

    • @PivotalRunning
      @PivotalRunning  2 года назад +2

      If Bedford goes between 2 and 4K the world record 13:16 (Ron Clarke 1966) would have gone down.

    • @johnstirling6597
      @johnstirling6597 2 года назад +5

      @@PivotalRunning Probably, It amazed me that in all of the finals that David Bedford ran, (Euro 71, Olympic 72 and Comm games 74) he never really ran to his strength which was to go hard from early on.

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama 2 года назад

      @@johnstirling6597 ??? He certainly went hard from early on in Munich 10,000m.

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama 2 года назад +1

      @@PivotalRunning A week after this, Virén actually made a WR. Then, after a couple of days, Puttemans made yet another (13.13).

    • @mrgobrien
      @mrgobrien Год назад

      david bedford was a "choker" (bottler) in title races (david moorcroft and paula radcliffe were similar british athletes) - so only a fool relied on him - though to be fair that wasn't universally known about bedford by this time.

  • @floycewhite6991
    @floycewhite6991 16 дней назад

    Always run the exact same pace the whole way. Always train at the exact same pace as you'll race. If you have trouble building up to the race distance while training at such a grueling pace, find a miles-long continuous downhill and train downhill. The steeper the downhill the better. On the flat build up to the distance of your race. On downhill build up to the time of your race.

  • @williamvasquezvasquez9878
    @williamvasquezvasquez9878 5 месяцев назад

    I put it on 2x and Prefontaine won in an astounding 7 min. and 43 sec.( roughly)😁!

  • @mikenealon4042
    @mikenealon4042 10 месяцев назад +2

    Go athletic beatle!

  • @holzkiewuf
    @holzkiewuf 10 месяцев назад +1

    His tactics weren’t too bad until last lap. He kicks about 3 times in last 400. If he would have just gone steady and kicked once w 100 to go he might have gotten a medal, but don’t think anyone was going to beat Viren that day.

  • @petermartin7811
    @petermartin7811 3 месяца назад

    Viren was a beast. Prefontaine didn't run a smart race but what heart he had

  • @54321-p
    @54321-p 7 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if Pre and his coach discussed this kind of possibility (SLOW pace) and what to do about it if so. I don't know of course, but this pace would have had to mess with Pre's mind. He did not like to race that way and I think if it had gone the way of a "TRUE" race (I don't like tactical races like this), Pre could have medaled.

  • @davidlecaros887
    @davidlecaros887 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lasse Viren,Champion

    • @davidlecaros887
      @davidlecaros887 4 месяца назад

      2 veces campeón Munich y Montreal ,inigualable y todavía se cayó,

  • @michaellayman945
    @michaellayman945 8 месяцев назад +2

    Pre only knew one way to run and that was all out. He made a tactical error on the last lap, going for the lead on the back stretch. If he had waited to the home stretch, he likely would have won the bronze. Of course, he ran only to win, 4 minute last mile.

    • @jmysterio100
      @jmysterio100 8 месяцев назад +1

      3 other guys ran faster over the last mile.

  • @ArviPontsa
    @ArviPontsa 8 месяцев назад +3

    VIREN🥰🤩

  • @brianoidperson
    @brianoidperson 6 месяцев назад +2

    Viren run the shortest distance. Pre maybe 100 m more than him

  • @stevedynell3330
    @stevedynell3330 Год назад +4

    In my humble opinion - and with respect for him, his loved ones, his friends and admirers, his fellow runners, and his sponsors - Prefontaine was a somewhat too self-confident, overly optimistic, outspoken, arrogant, and foul-mouthed person. As a born-again Christian, I am grieved by his untimely death at age 24 in Oregon on May 30th, 1975, under the influence of alcohol - and just hours after winning his last race - 5,000 meters.

  • @arnoldbissen9921
    @arnoldbissen9921 Год назад +3

    Was this still from the time that the Fins were still using legal blood-doping (with transfusions)?

    • @whahappened8398
      @whahappened8398 Год назад +3

      No, this was from a time when Arthur Lydiard was National Distance running coach of Finland.
      You remember Lydiard.. the guy with a bread trail of Olympic medals amongst his athletic stable (?)
      that spanned decades.

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад +1

      BS...Documents of wide spread doping was uncovered@@whahappened8398

  • @logansmovieoutlet9622
    @logansmovieoutlet9622 Год назад +9

    These announcers really did not like Pre

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama Год назад +8

      I hear no dislike.

    • @gary1961
      @gary1961 Год назад +6

      @@PaulVinonaama I agree. David Coleman actually called him 'an athletic Beatle.' That is a compliment right there for his popularity.

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 Год назад +2

      huh ....They said he was cocky and totally believes in himself. Just a cult runner. Sounds like a insult to me@@PaulVinonaama

  • @christophemezaize9120
    @christophemezaize9120 Год назад +4

    Chaque fois que je regarde cette course, j'espère que Pre finisse dans les 3 premiers mais ça ne se réalise jamais.

  • @Павел-д4ж1ч
    @Павел-д4ж1ч Год назад +3

    Pre, best

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu Год назад +2

      At losing and duing nothing of importance on the world stage.

    • @Nuggetsin4
      @Nuggetsin4 Год назад

      @@RK-um9tu😭

    • @mattiforss6331
      @mattiforss6331 15 дней назад

      No, he was4.

  • @糖質退治ボランティア
    @糖質退治ボランティア 5 месяцев назад

    Lasse Virén is a nice player.
    But why isn't he getting the same buzz as Marita Koch or Kratochvilova?

  • @jeffkaufman9875
    @jeffkaufman9875 5 месяцев назад

    If Pre was a Beatle, on this day, it was clearly Pete…

  • @caesarvalentin6332
    @caesarvalentin6332 Месяц назад

    Steve best time in the 5000 meters but he ran out of gas in the last 100 meters.

  • @PaulVinonaama
    @PaulVinonaama 9 месяцев назад

    Bedford must have been happy to beat Väätäinen!

  • @tintin639
    @tintin639 7 месяцев назад +1

    Its worth watching just to listen to David Coleman’s overly dramatic commentary. How did he last so long at the BBC/?

  • @sigfriedmeyer9788
    @sigfriedmeyer9788 10 месяцев назад +2

    For me, the real winner of this race was Steve Prefontaine. He would have deserved gold here. It's always easy to stay behind and let others set the pace. It may be tactically clever, but not the right way to do it in my opinion. Steve Prefontaine always gave his best in every race, for me those are the true heroes of the sport, not this tactic of runners. Letting others set the pace and then sprinting ahead at the end. In Prefontaine's defense, he lived right near the Israeli athletes who were killed in the attack. Not a good situation for this race.

    • @jmysterio100
      @jmysterio100 8 месяцев назад +3

      The pace at 3000 meters was slow...4:30 mile pace and Pre didn't take the lead until 3400 meters, held it for two laps before giving it up at 4200, then regained it at 4400 only to give it back at 4600 and never regained it. So he held the lead for only 2 1/2 laps of the entire race. Hardly setting the "pure guts" race that myth has perpetuated for over 50 years.

  • @guycooke9438
    @guycooke9438 11 месяцев назад

    He would have been 170 meters ahead at the finish line, if he had run his normal race and nobody would come close to catching him...

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama 10 месяцев назад +2

      Who the hell are you talking about?

  • @paavoviuhko7250
    @paavoviuhko7250 3 месяца назад

    We can easily undo the non-American record breakers by blaming it on doping, because they weren't Americans. Let's cut the crap and realize that American life is not the favored form of excellence.

  • @mikenealon4042
    @mikenealon4042 Год назад +1

    viren period

  • @ПархатИлахунов-ц4у
    @ПархатИлахунов-ц4у 5 месяцев назад

    🎉

  • @guycooke9438
    @guycooke9438 11 месяцев назад

    they ran so slow because they were afraid of the Little Guy from Coos Bay and knew what times he was capable of.. . The leaders were cautious and had to slow the pace because they could never keep up if he got the chance to run his race.

  • @mikenealon4042
    @mikenealon4042 9 месяцев назад

    the duke of plaza toro, leading from behind, says the word of the day was-appalling!

  • @channanana7865
    @channanana7865 6 месяцев назад +1

    "The burliest runner out there"

  • @PatKlotchko-qv9hw
    @PatKlotchko-qv9hw 7 месяцев назад +1

    This was bowermans fault, instead of running like he always did, bowermans had him lay back for the 1'st 2 miles, horrible coaching !!!

  • @MSalt69
    @MSalt69 8 месяцев назад +3

    They look like the line up from a Monty Python sketch.

  • @nickbamber268
    @nickbamber268 2 месяца назад

    Gammoudi denied by the bloody dope.

  • @mikelewis1436
    @mikelewis1436 7 месяцев назад

    Too little too late from Ian Stewart...in his own words he had 'a complete disaster' of a race...

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yet he got his only Olympic medal.