Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 116 Discussion

tsudecimo said:




I heard about that, since there was a shit storm regarding that at the beginning of the Chimera ant arc but I wasn't watching at the time so I didn't know all the details regarding what Madhouse did.

Okay, I will read it.

fishergirl16 said:

I do think that he was OOC, though. He's always the one to think positively, and always the first to forgive. None of that came through in this episode.

Salce said:

You know that Madhouse changed the backstory of Gon and Kite, right?

In this anime Gon's fixation on Kite seems like too much for sure. I recomend you read chapter 1 of the manga.

miskos3 said:
Hmm? I thought they showed it at the start of the Chimera Ant arc. I do remember Kite saving little Gon and I didn't read the manga.

Vanser said:


Yea, they showed that at the beginning of the Chimera Ant Arc, but I think the impact of him would have been bigger if they also showed him in the first episode. Kite seems like a pretty forgettable character if you only watch the anime version. But that's just my opinion.

fishergirl16 said:

I totally understand what you're saying. I felt the same way for the episode as well. However, if you go back and watch the episode where Kaito was captured, it actually is pretty intense. Imo, the most intense scene beneath this week's episode. And in the previous episodes, there's a lot of foreshadowing that Gon is going to be really upset while fighting Pitou.

I also think it has a lot to do with Kaito's relationship to Gon's father. The fact that Gon finally met someone who knew a lot about Ging... It's really important to him.

I do think that he was OOC, though. He's always the one to think positively, and always the first to forgive. None of that came through in this episode.

You can't deny that it was really well done, though. ;)

Vanser said:


Yea, they showed that at the beginning of the Chimera Ant Arc, but I think the impact of him would have been bigger if they also showed him in the first episode. Kite seems like a pretty forgettable character if you only watch the anime version. But that's just my opinion.

tsudecimo said:
Great episode, hadn't watched a good one since episode 108. 4/5. Killua was too perceptive again in this episode, it felt forced. But his calm demeanor through all these crazy unforeseen situations is interesting to see. He feels a bit conflicted about Gon and sincerely worried and/or he is probably have the leaving Gon thing on his mind, he seems somewhat absent minded considering the stuff that are happening around him.

Gon's character really doesn't make sense to me, at all. His rage, mentally un-stability and explosion of emotions in this episode left me baffled and puzzled. He feels like a different character all together or a bi-polar character. I can't gasp his thought process through this arc. Why is Kite that important to him? I never saw him rage that much regarding other people that are close to him. His fixation on Kite doesn't really make sense, unless I'm forgetting something regarding their relationship.

Not gonna raise my expectations but I hope the show keeps getting better from here.



And how many episodes till the end of this arc?

tsudecimo said:

Yeah I remember that episode, it was one of the only two episodes that I gave 5/5 during this arc, it was pretty intense. Yeah there is, and it was shown a lot and I already expected his rage regarding Pitou since it's shown in the OP but I never seen Gon that mentally unstable and emotional since ever.

Exactly, he is always positive and usually he would care about the safety of people like Komugi but he disregarded all that and kept his focus on Pitou only. I also don't remember him speaking to Killua like that, he basically only care for the Pitou and Kite situation. His old fun nature/innocence, positive traits and ideals seem to be temporally absent in his mind. I always thought of Gon as a fucked up individual for many reasons but he surprised me a little bit in this episodes.

The scene in itself was great but Gon's different personality and fixation on Kite is what puzzles me, it seems completely different from his old determination and stubbornness to achieve what he wants.

pkKodama said:

No you're not forgetting anything, Kite should be as important for Gon as he is for Killua, his rage didn't make any sense at all. And that's why I never hated a character so much like I did when I read that scene in the manga.

gedata said:


why?

desiderius32 said:
I don't really understand why Pitou doesn't stop healing Komugi for a bit, kills Gon and Killua, and resumes healing Komugi. It surely wouldn't take more than a fraction of a second for her to kill two weaklings.

pkKodama said:

They spent roughly the same time togheter. So, Kite saved Gon years ago? So what? He didn't even remember that. That's just how important that memory was for him...-.-

desiderius32 said:
I don't really understand why Pitou doesn't stop healing Komugi for a bit, kills Gon and Killua, and resumes healing Komugi. It surely wouldn't take more than a fraction of a second for her to kill two weaklings.

renders said:
I find it brilliant how Pitou who had that malevolent aura...how Togashi made you feel sorry for her and be afraid of the main guy who you're rooting for

Guilek said:


In the mangas he remenber.

Guilek said:
He was too busy learning japanese...... :p

Gon isn't logic, he isn't totaly good, he is a human with rage.
Gon doesn't need good reasons he will do what he want and what is right for him.

pkKodama said:

What kind of stupid argument is that? Anyway, Gon can do whatever he wants as long as his childish actions aren't hurting others.

Vanser said:
Does anybody know the song they used when Pitou broke his own arm? I don't remember hearing this one before, is it from the Last Mission OST?

judals said:
I had a discussion with someone about why Hunter x Hunter is different from the other shonen. THIS episode is why.

All of the build up, all the foreshadowing; Satotz, Wing, Zepile, Kurapika, Nobunaga, Chrollo, Biscuit, Genthru, and everyone else Gon had met up to that point, Gon constantly changing from the kid who was innocent while discovering how messed up the world around him is.

Gon always hated the idea of cold-blooded killers actually feeling emotions for certain loved ones. His anger toward Nobunaga, him sparing Genthru and his buddies. He's not concerned that they are soulless killers, but he's mad that they think they are entitled to protect people while they themselves kill others.

Killua's protective nature toward Gon would totally piss off Gon, if Killua were still an assassin.
When Killua almost lost it being held by Nobunaga, it was Gon who knocked some sense into him telling him it's he who should stop Gon from doing anything rash. And now he is. Despite Gon telling him off (I loved how the camera pans out, putting distance between them when Gon told Killua to zip it). Gon was angry and Pitou's submissive attitude totally caught him off guard. He kept trying to lash out hoping Pitou would throw something at him so he can keep going, to no avail. Gon came in filled with rage but Pitou rendered him defenseless, ironically so, since he's the one not using any aura. This subtle character development is what makes this story divisive.


The direction of this episode was outstanding. Every scene, every shot and facial expression. The MUSIC. So many new tracks were used, and fittingly so. I especially loved the first half's score. Great job for Tomoko Mori's team. She should be hired more often.
Megumi Han deserves an award for her talent. It really brought the emotion to life. Her screams really touched me.



This is what I felt a few months back watching To'hajillee and Ozymandias. Now an ANIME, made me feel that way.

One thing I don't understand, or not sure if it's supposed to mean something: after Killua left, what's that piece of cloth blown in the air? Is it significant or does it just imply that Killua left?

Pariston_Hill said:


I think it's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq2yL8LuWdQ

gedata said:

I don't think he would've actually hurt Komugi. Probably just his rage talking without rational thought behind it. Killing an innocent person? Gon? You shouldn't expect such character derailment out of this series.