| So around a year back I lost interest in anime and as a result stopped using this site frequently. Today I decided to see what's new, maybe get back into the stuff, and while browsing the forums I checked out another thread in this section, which had a screenshot of a the gender selection having anything more than the the only two genders that actually exist. So... what, this ridiculous trend that's the mockery of the internet and being a subject of debate on whether or not it's an actual mental disease - gender dysphoria - reached an anime site as well? That's kinda hilarious. What do you think about this, ''non-binary'' friends? Also, did you (MAL staff) get a lot of pressure into implementing this, or is it just another audience broadening strategy? |
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| It's a personal choice. People can identify however they choose and it costs nothing to respect those decisions. If non-binary is a label that fits right with them, then who are we to police their identity? |
aleenyaNov 21, 2017 8:18 PM
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| i do not see the point of all these fancy bullshit terms. you either have a dick or a vagina (in most cases. there are people born with both but that usually ends in the removal of one. the rare case where both are kept then ok identify as genderless). if you plan on keeping your original sex organ then why bitch about it not being a part of who you are when it clearly is? if you plan on changing it i can see why you wouldn't want to be looked at as your birth gender and by all means should be free to identify as the opposite. on a similar note if i like the opposite sex only i would be straight, if i liked the same sex only id be gay, since i do not care what sex part you have i am bi. if i only wanted you to have the sex organ you were born with i'd still fit into any of these three categories depending on which was otherwise applicable, i'd just be a choicy partner who should be open about it. any terminology beyond that just seems like someone made shit up so they could feel like a special snowflake. |
NekO_RelliKNov 21, 2017 8:38 PM
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TR4NC3BOY said: aleena-san said: People can identify however they choose and it costs nothing to respect those decisions. There are stuff that you CAN do but shouldn't. i CAN identify as an attack helicopter and run around naked outside. Does that mean i should ? They're not doing that though. They're not defying any law (i.e indecent exposure), nor are they hurting others by this personal decision. You have the freedom to feel however you want about it, but you don't have the authority to patrol someone's identity, especially if it's of no concern or affect to you. |
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| Husband is non-binary. But he kinda doesn't care what you call him (male or female). But he does have a lot of OCD issues and he is very feminine. And it is to the point of being mistaken for a girl.... He doesn't pass for straight at all.... he hardly passes for male some days. He doesn't like tumblr people but. eh. Why does it even matter anyway? He just don't want random shit thrown at him just for existing in an unacceptable space between male and female very naturally. As for what he put on the profile? Male. Why? He doesn't need to attract idiots honestly. |
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aleena-san said: TR4NC3BOY said: There are stuff that you CAN do but shouldn't. i CAN identify as an attack helicopter and run around naked outside. Does that mean i should ? They're not doing that though. They're not defying any law (i.e indecent exposure), nor are they hurting others by this personal decision. You have the freedom to feel however you want about it, but you don't have the authority to patrol someone's identity, especially if it's of no concern or affect to you. That's where you are very wrong. They might not be doing anything illegal, but they definitely affect me and everyone around me. For example, California wanted to put transgender/gender neutral bathrooms in High schools. (don't know if they did it or not, too lazy to google) How much tax money is going to be wasted because snowflakes want to feel special? That money could be going towards actual education because, let's be real here, America has a shit education system. Also, does that mean I have to learn a new set of pronouns just because it's not appropriate to call someone a he/she? And if I don't, I'm labeled sexist. There are so many things wrong with thinking that they don't affect anyone. |
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| Why does it bother you so much? More choice is a good thing. Now stop whining and crying like a baby and man the fuck up. |
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| This thread is like a landmine, better stay out of this. |
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| Some people seem really but hurt about a singular option. Like is it all that difficult to ignore or something? Is the fabric of our society falling apart because someone can choose to identify as non-binary on an anime website? |
| I think it’s a great option! In the sense that it lets me sort out the normal people from the weirdos. The people to talk to and the people to avoid. |
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isekai said: i got no problem with it since genders are different from biological sex that is actually 3 (male, female, intersex) There are not 3 Sexes, Intersex is a mutation. |
| 2 sexes and 3 genders. Male, Female Male, Female, Attack Helicopter |
ConstantDenial said: man. just think of everyone here as male. except if they have a selfie or a tumblr on their profile d i d y o u j u s t a s s u m e m y g e n d e r ¿ it's 2011, grow up. |
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| It's not hurting anyone so I don't have any issues with it. |
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Bobby2Hands said: Why does it bother you so much? More choice is a good thing. Now stop whining and crying like a baby and man the fuck up. "man the fuck up" is some poor word choice fam I guess I should prolly answer this thread seriously: I don't really care about anyone else's gender on mal, they are what they wanna be. I'll support 'em |
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| Apparently people get emotionally hurt if you say they're a gender they don't consider themselves. I personally refer to people by sex when distinguishing them, so there is always a battle when people think I'm referring to their gender when it's by their sex. I believe there is some objectivity to the world that (not always) supersedes our own subjectivity. E.g. I'll call you a man if you happen to fit the bio-markers of the male sex, meaning if we fucked their is a possibility a child can be produced. I'll refer to them by gender (which are social markers), but in relation to talking about them to others, if their sex is the topic then thats what it is. |
SilverstormNov 22, 2017 7:35 PM
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
| Nonbinary is factually wrong, so yes, it does irk me when sites pander to this nonsense. If it was regarded in the same way furries or otherkin are (aka disregarded as weirdness) then I'd be fine with it, but since companies are scared of self-absorbed trenders boycotting them or whatever then they'll go along with it. isekai said: thats just old science, i rather listen to updated science that says 2 sexes are not enough What noteworthy scientific journals have called intersex a genuine third sex? Afaik it is regarded as a mutation in biology. |
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| It is for the mentally ill to feel accepted, everyone else understands that there is only 2 genders |
| It doesn't really bother me if people choose that as a MAL option. It's whatever. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| Its getting ridiculous and I can't take this whole shit seriously tbh. Looks like people want to be special snowflakes. There are only 2 genders imho. At least we get the Attack Helicopter meme: I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding. |
| Appeasing people tends to be the easier option. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| omg he said he's an attack helicopter so funny i'm dying does it infuriate you that much the way that some people perceive themselves? |
| Does it matter? Just let people put in whatever they feel like |
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| the real question is, why would anyone ever care about this |
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| Im waiting for the day when dakimura and apache helicopter will be part of the option. Hold on folks let me try to go on a feminist rally. |
"When you made this thread, I cried and screamed" -Swagernator 2017 |
| Gender is pretty much a social construct so having non-binary makes sense to me. |
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| Also kids here who call non-binary people mentally ill, should pick a serious book on this stuff, instead of yelling their nonesense at other, some idiots can't even comprehend that gender and sex is different things.... Sorry for double post btw, on phone so too lazy to edit will put to one when i will get to my pc. |
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| Non-binary = mentally ill? ohhh boy someone's ignorant as fuck |
 ᴀ ʙ ɪ ᴅ  no i don't love you, and i never did |
| I sexually identify as an attack helicopter |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: I sexually identify as an attack helicopter the joke is getting old, it's almost 2018. |
149597871 said: Wrong. It will never get old, just like the "current year" meme you just usedthe joke is getting old, it's almost 2018. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| You sound mad you bitch ass nut lover |
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| glad they put the option in! you dont even have to use the gender option (my gender is not listed on my profile), but its nice that the nonbinary option is more than just nothing or an "other." |
Abid said: You're right, it's not a sign of somebody being mentally ill. 99 % of the time it's just a sign of them being a special snowflakeNon-binary = mentally ill? ohhh boy someone's ignorant as fuck |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
nicethings said: hate to break it to you, but you sound like you’ve been spending too much time on tumblr “third gender” isn’t lgbt, mmkay, it’s mostly attention seeking teenage girls who don’t like to be “girly”. that’s called being a “tomboy” gender dysphoria makes one trans special snowflakes 99% of the time don’t have gender dysphoria therefore tumblr snowflakes are not trans I guess you don't like tumblr but honestly, why do you care about "attention seeking teenage girls", let them identify as whatever they want. I mean it's not like they're going to hurt you or anything. Besides you don't need gender dysphoria, I'm cisgender myself and still select the "non-binary" option everywhere on the internet because I don't want random people to know/assume my biological sex. |
| I wish I knew why people cause such a fucking upset when others make decisions that are none of their business and harm no one. It must tax your life to be this concerned and bitchy about all these things. TR4NC3BOY said: aleena-san said: People can identify however they choose and it costs nothing to respect those decisions. There are stuff that you CAN do but shouldn't. i CAN identify as an attack helicopter and run around naked outside. Does that mean i should ? Yeah I'm sure you're going to identify with that your whole life and you're not just being dramatic because someone else has strong feelings towards their gender. |
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