Lesbian content in Harem games/getting to know the harem playerbase

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I am making a Harem game, and I would like to know the playerbase.

Would you mind your LI having sex with each other?

Would you mind your LI having a romance between them?

A lot of you have strong opinions about it, and I would like to know them.

Aside from that, what do you like/search for in a harem game?

Any suggestions are also welcome!
 
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I am making a Harem game, and I would like to know the playerbase.

Would you mind your LI having sex with each other?

Would you mind your LI having a romance between them?

A lot of you have strong opinions about it, and I would like to know them.

Aside from that, what do you like/search for in a harem game?

Any suggestions are also welcome!
to your female enemy with her own harem. Why should i be interested in what they are doing in their free time? I personally and probably most harem players play the game for the MC and his relationship with his girls. Everything else is either seen as stealing girls from MC or just unnecessary work that could be better used to flesh out relationships that matter.

Like i told you before i play harem games and almost exclusively use the polyamory options if possible, but having a second harem is a whole other level one i wouldnt want to see. Also for every scene you make for them you make one less for MC and his girls.

Also how are they enemies? is it some school rivalry or is it a fight to the death situation?
 

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Would you mind your LI having sex with each other?
Would you mind your LI having a romance between them?
Some will love, some don't care and some will hate it.
Aside from that, what do you like/search for in a harem game?
Depends on the players. Some may see the harem as the centerpoint of the story and for others it is just a part of it.

In my eyes: Plan your story, explain what we can and can't have and what we are forced to have. And, in the best case, stick to it. Not all games are for all people and most of them understand it. But a lot of them don't like or even get angry if you change some aspect in the game that are central to them later in the game.
So, if the game looks like a MC only centered harem fuckfest until chapter 4 and then you drop 3 male black and neotare into it, you will have a dumpster fire faster than you can say it. Even if you can't tell much because of the story of the game, I would advice for some sort of general disclamer (aka, you will be force in some case, not all the topic, themes and kinks may be for you and you may be offended, ...), so the people who play the game have a chance (if they used it) to avoid the game if their not happy with such a type of game.

Be aware even if you do all of that, there always are people that will bitch and complain about regardless of whatever you do.
 

Magic Harem

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Some will love, some don't care and some will hate it.

Depends on the players. Some may see the harem as the centerpoint of the story and for others it is just a part of it.

In my eyes: Plan your story, explain what we can and can't have and what we are forced to have. And, in the best case, stick to it. Not all games are for all people and most of them understand it. But a lot of them don't like or even get angry if you change some aspect in the game that are central to them later in the game.
So, if the game looks like a MC only centered harem fuckfest until chapter 4 and then you drop 3 male black and neotare into it, you will have a dumpster fire faster than you can say it. Even if you can't tell much because of the story of the game, I would advice for some sort of general disclamer (aka, you will be force in some case, not all the topic, themes and kinks may be for you and you may be offended, ...), so the people who play the game have a chance (if they used it) to avoid the game if their not happy with such a type of game.

Be aware even if you do all of that, there always are people that will bitch and complain about regardless of whatever you do.
Thank you, that's the anwser I was looking for, I am starting to understand this world of AVN. I think I'll make my game and then add some options to skip some content that peopleo would like. I guess I'll have cute relationships with the girls between them in some cases but not romantically. Thank you for your time : P
 
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to your female enemy with her own harem. Why should i be interested in what they are doing in their free time? I personally and probably most harem players play the game for the MC and his relationship with his girls. Everything else is either seen as stealing girls from MC or just unnecessary work that could be better used to flesh out relationships that matter.

Like i told you before i play harem games and almost exclusively use the polyamory options if possible, but having a second harem is a whole other level one i wouldnt want to see. Also for every scene you make for them you make one less for MC and his girls.

Also how are they enemies? is it some school rivalry or is it a fight to the death situation?
Because she is the other protagonist, she will have her own screen time, she isn't just "the enemy".

I get what you say about "unnecessary work that could be better used to flesh out relationships that matter" you have a point there, but what I see is that the relationships of the female protagonist are also important, and I aim to have 2 protagonists with their own world and vision of things. I can make the lesbian content skippable, and you may center in the heterosexual harem, nothing wrong with that, but for the people that like lesbian content also, I think this is the perfect game for them, and probably there is a player base to it.

They are in a fight to the death situation.
 

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Thank you, that's the anwser I was looking for, I am starting to understand this world of AVN. I think I'll make my game and then add some options to skip some content that peopleo would like. I guess I'll have cute relationships with the girls between them in some cases but not romantically. Thank you for your time : P
Even then, some people will get angry cause "It is there, even if I can chose to not follow that path it still there and thus it is shit".
I know, cause I've seen it, regardless of how strange it looks. Same for neotare, for some people even a dildo is neotare...

So best advice I can give is: Have a plan, communicate with the poeple as much as it make sense and you can and, if you are active here, have a thick skin. You can get great feedback that may help you - I still believe that - but on the other site, you will see a lot of complains going from "false content" to small updates or too few updates to milking and so on. Basically for ever useful comment or advice, I assume you will see more than one that doesn't help you.
So keep your distance and don't let them get to you. If you notice that it become too much take some pause. I do like to have developers on this site and even more the one who also interact, but I'm on the other side of the coin. I've seen enough of developers come and gone on this site and the minority, in my eyes, where it was good that they where gone (in those rare case, some result to manipulation of their own game reviews or other things and some where just very toxics in their behaviour...).

Also read da rules and additional threads for guidelince (eg. in your case tags rules and list updated and game uploading rules). Simple have a look at the site rules news announcements subforum from time to time. Most of the important stuff is there or you can get it from there if you follow a link.
Last but not least, there is the developer batch - more shiny than my own - but I see it as a double edge sword. You don't need one for making your own game, it helps to recognise that you are a developer and developer of your own game, but it also place you into the spotlight. Everyone will know that you're the dev of a game, so think twice about it.;) (Same goes for "owning" the game thread and thus "owing" the opening post too)
 

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Even then, some people will get angry cause "It is there, even if I can chose to not follow that path it still there and thus it is shit".
I know, cause I've seen it, regardless of how strange it looks. Same for neotare, for some people even a dildo is neotare...

So best advice I can give is: Have a plan, communicate with the poeple as much as it make sense and you can and, if you are active here, have a thick skin. You can get great feedback that may help you - I still believe that - but on the other site, you will see a lot of complains going from "false content" to small updates or too few updates to milking and so on. Basically for ever useful comment or advice, I assume you will see more than one that doesn't help you.
So keep your distance and don't let them get to you. If you notice that it become too much take some pause. I do like to have developers on this site and even more the one who also interact, but I'm on the other side of the coin. I've seen enough of developers come and gone on this site and the minority, in my eyes, where it was good that they where gone (in those rare case, some result to manipulation of their own game reviews or other things and some where just very toxics in their behaviour...).

Also read da rules and additional threads for guidelince (eg. in your case tags rules and list updated and game uploading rules). Simple have a look at the site rules news announcements subforum from time to time. Most of the important stuff is there or you can get it from there if you follow a link.
Last but not least, there is the developer batch - more shiny than my own - but I see it as a double edge sword. You don't need one for making your own game, it helps to recognise that you are a developer and developer of your own game, but it also place you into the spotlight. Everyone will know that you're the dev of a game, so think twice about it.;) (Same goes for "owning" the game thread and thus "owing" the opening post too)
That's a really useful comment, thank you, I'll follow it. Soon (more or less) I'll have a post about my game, I'll see how that goes...
 

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Realistically, any harem type situation will be extremely susceptible to jealousy and won't last long without some powerful force holding it together. Depending on the genre, there are a few good options for what this force can be. On the darker side, you have magic/mind control to force the members to be okay with the harem, money/wealth to pay them enough to pretend not to care, and coercion/slavery to ignore their preferences entirely.

On the lighter side of things, you have polyamory where nobody is jealous because everyone benefits equally, and then there are games where the harem members just love the MC so much that they don't care if they have other relationships. This last option is obviously the weakest, but unfortunately it is very common in harem games because it's easier than writing polyamory, and the devs still want to keep it lighthearted.

In my opinion, if you're not going for the darker, coercion based route for your game, you don't really have a choice. The LI's need to also be in a relationship with each other, or else your story will come across as a bland, wish fulfillment scenario.
 

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I aim to have 2 protagonists with their own world and vision of things.
They are in a fight to the death situation.
all you get will be an giant headache. Multiple protagonists, LIs getting Killed, LIs the MC cant get thats pretty much the trifecta of stuff that has no place in a harem game. I can already feel the radiation from my screen. Just from imagining what a post apocalyptic toxic wasteland that threat will become.
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all you get will be an giant headache. Multiple protagonists, LIs getting Killed, LIs the MC cant get thats pretty much the trifecta of stuff that has no place in a harem game. I can already feel the radiation from my screen. Just from imagining what a post apocalyptic toxic wasteland that threat will become.
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The threat? Maybe, but I'll try and it's what I want. I am searching the balance for the story, I don't want LI getting killed and people feeling bad (at least usually, muajaja). Now, seriously, I note your words down, the male protagonist has a totally normal harem, a classic, like 10 girls for himself alone, romance, sex, dates, that stuff.

"LIs the MC cant get thats pretty much the trifecta of stuff that has no place in a harem game" What do you mean? I don't understand
 
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"LIs the MC cant get thats pretty much the trifecta of stuff that has no place in a harem game" What do you mean? I don't understand
Multiple protagonists, LIs getting Killed, LIs the MC cant get thats pretty much the trifecta of stuff that has no place in a harem game.

Nobody (the vast majority of players) dont play Harem games to get
1) multiple protagonists (screams NTR, sharing shit, and other technicalities nobody wants to see)
2) Dead LIs
3) seeing girls fucking other people (aka not the MC)
 
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But I am not going to have that, overall the first point (and the third one, I have made the decision). Why would be confusion if The title screen has a group of girls with a guy and a group of girls with a girl, the message is clear.

Maybe you have some games in mind and you think are gonna be like that, but is not the case. 2 protagonist, both of them in their own houses, in different countries, continents, with 1 ocean apart.

I think you're putting yourself at the worst possible situation, although it's a good idea to do it, I don't know why anyone would think that.
 

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But I am not going to have that, overall the first point (and the third one, I have made the decision). Why would be confusion if The title screen has a group of girls with a guy and a group of girls with a girl, the message is clear.

Maybe you have some games in mind and you think are gonna be like that, but is not the case. 2 protagonist, both of them in their own houses, in different countries, continents, with 1 ocean apart.

I think you're putting yourself at the worst possible situation, although it's a good idea to do it, I don't know why anyone would think that.
at the end of the day its your game and you can do what ever you want its not like i can stop you.
I play VNs for nearly 10 years and i'm a primary harem game player. If it doesnt have the harem tag or the dev said it will be a harem game, than there is a 99.5% chance that i dont even touch the game. All that said as far as Content goes i'm pretty forgiving. Most harem players I regularly talk to think i'm to accepting of BS in games.

And what I know about your game so far is just glaring red flags.
So i will probably ignore the game once it drops here but i still wish you luck you will need it.
 
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A lot of you have strong opinions about it
You mean a small loud and very annoying minority on a minority site?

As has been proved by porn metrics over the last 40 years, Lesbian sex is still in top 3 most searched/watched by men. The annoying voices here a small minority who think all women should devote themselevs to the MC's cock and not even look at each of the other MC's women.

Make the game you want to make. Trying to make a game to cater to people before you've even started it...well...I'll tell you know it will already be a failure.
 

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at the end of the day its your game and you can do what ever you want its not like i can stop you.
I play VNs for nearly 10 years and i'm a primary harem game player. If it doesnt have the harem tag or the dev said it will be a harem game, than there is a 99.5% chance that i dont even touch the game. All that said as far as Content goes i'm pretty forgiving. Most harem players I regularly talk to think i'm to accepting of BS in games.

And what I know about your game so far is just glaring red flags.
So i will probably ignore the game once it drops here but i still wish you luck you will need it.
Talking about the harem tag, for the moment I have 2 girls, not even 3. I want to take take for them to get a connection, establish the harem relationship with the MC and etc, before adding more characters that will have their own screen time to present and establish themselves in the story and the harem.

As I read you, that could be a problem. Any suggestions?

I really think you are watching the ghost of others developers. I would be glad if you look the page of the game here and see if there are those red flags or not, in the cover of the game, character descriptions, story, presentation, anything. You can do as you want, I just think in the imagination all this can be interpreted differently as it is.
 

Magic Harem

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You mean a small loud and very annoying minority on a minority site?

As has been proved by porn metrics over the last 40 years, Lesbian sex is still in top 3 most searched/watched by men. The annoying voices here a small minority who think all women should devote themselevs to the MC's cock and not even look at each of the other MC's women.

Make the game you want to make. Trying to make a game to cater to people before you've even started it...well...I'll tell you know it will already be a failure.
Thank you, that's a really good comment, I'll note down what you said
 

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I think the biggest thing I've noticed about harem games is that most people who are into them don't want too much strife or drama. Sure, some, to make a story interesting, but not too heavy, not too much. The whole harem fantasy is set up that anything that interferes in multiple LIs interest in the MC, the feeling of being a king over his domain, so to speak, that goes beyond light drama affects the overall experience or rush of the kink. I like a good harem game, but it's not one I search for specifically and even I fall into this mind set a bit while playing one.
 
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