lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: Psst Dont tell that to lucianI still kinda disagree that its sheeping, I highly doubt if we actually lock a lynch today that all 8 people will have their own separate reasons and cases built. Yes a lynch is well needed at this part, so it's possible that scum will sheep, but it's also possible town will sheep to make sure the lynch doesn't fail. I've changed my vote to make sure lynches go through many times before. The only actual problem I have is that something I just noticed from the last message I quoted, why didn't abu actually try to build a case. I mean I want a lynch but to instantly sheep at the start of the next day that is strange. Im surprised I didn't see it that way, I was more looking at "Red was a hot topic so of course he would get voted again early". |
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The_Pyromaani said: lastwhisper31 said: Another one of these posts..., take what I say with a grain of salt, but Ive read that posts like this are obvious scum, and I dont see a reason a townie to put pressure on themselves. If i were scum wai i would but pressure on myself. Doesnt make any sense. Scum take risks its not unusual lol, also why would you comply by actually giving a better reaction. Literally shows you were generally concerned at how your previous reaction was read. |
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lastwhisper31 said: That counter argument makes sense, but it is also possible that not everyone mafia is pro player and doesnt realize all the obvious scum tells. Abu and you dont seem to come off as the most experienced players. Woah pyro is a great player, hes just a nutcase sometimes and he likes to drink XD |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: I didn't call out the other people who sheeped me yesterday, that's because sheeping isn't inherently scummy, it's the reasons why people sheep that make them scummy. That doesnt even make sense.... Wasnt this lucians statement? |
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Gwendolly said: The_Pyromaani said: Hmm just thinking what suzies thoughts has been. Suzie is dead and she thought maybe Shinchi is scum. That would bee too obvious if they decided to elminate Suzie because of this but thought to bring this up. She definitely didnt die because of that. I'm guessing it was the complete opposite. To either display Shinichi or just because she was somewhat neutral and there wouldnt be too many suspects. So you think she was killed by somehow who suzune hadnt pointed a finger at? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Would it have made a difference if those sheeping votes helped cause the lynch to pass? Yes, because Salmon could flip scum. As for Abu alignment it's possible he's scum but ive never really been able to figure out the mentality of his actions before. Possible to be scum ehh? Didn't know you had a scumread on him. Do you? Hmm I get what ya mean slightly, your annoyed that instead of trying to figure out the game state he literally came in just continue sheeping from the last phase. Yes. Ik it's a bad habit, but i've seen town did themselves in deep holes trying to defend themselves before leading to Mis lynches. That's because they do it wrong. Unlike me. :p Where do you Salmon was town defending themselves from being mislynched? |
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| yo can we lynch lastwhisper after all? I just have this feeling.... |
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| yo can we lynch lastwhisper after all? I just have this feeling.... edit: Like...those forced questions man...I dont know man! sorry for double post |
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Gwendolly said: yo can we lynch lastwhisper after all? I just have this feeling.... edit: Like...those forced questions man...I dont know man! sorry for double post Just trying to get shit poppin? Not a very good scum hunter, Im more of a mechanical guy |
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Shinichi-Kun said: lastwhisper31 said: That counter argument makes sense, but it is also possible that not everyone mafia is pro player and doesnt realize all the obvious scum tells. Abu and you dont seem to come off as the most experienced players. Woah pyro is a great player, hes just a nutcase sometimes and he likes to drink XD This lowkey pocketing again... |
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lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: yo can we lynch lastwhisper after all? I just have this feeling.... edit: Like...those forced questions man...I dont know man! sorry for double post Just trying to get shit poppin? Not a very good scum hunter, Im more of a mechanical guy I already said, I would get my answers if I find out which alignment you are edit: and I think most of the people here view you as neutral too Let us have this sacrifice |
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Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: Woah pyro is a great player, hes just a nutcase sometimes and he likes to drink XD This lowkey pocketing again... You and Lucian really love throwing around that word? and here you are again with your ambiguous comment to a double quote with no indication of who your talking about. Cause last time you were talking about me, but you quoted someone else's post, and you and lucian came at me for answering a question I didnt even believe was towards me, I gave me 2 cents and then you both commented how I didnt answer the question, when I didnt even know the question was directed at me. |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: Just trying to get shit poppin? Not a very good scum hunter, Im more of a mechanical guy I already said, I would get my answers if I find out which alignment you are edit: and I think most of the people here view you as neutral too Let us have this sacrifice who is most, I'm curious, and Im not ready to be the self sacrifice? What exactly do you have on me? I got out of work, and I thought hey maybe start with some questions |
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lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: I already said, I would get my answers if I find out which alignment you are edit: and I think most of the people here view you as neutral too Let us have this sacrifice who is most, I'm curious, and Im not ready to be the self sacrifice? What exactly do you have on me? I got out of work, and I thought hey maybe start with some questions Where were the questions on D1? Well zymf and lucian was it? Also your voters already left you alone, so I'm guessing they are done. But things never really cleared up. I want to make sense of something...sooo.. change vote: lastwhisper31 |
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| @zymf first off lol when you make giant posts can you make it so each giant post is about a specific player so i can actually quote them. Lucian is a pretty open book mafia player, so allow of the stuff he does is pretty NAI. It's only when he jumps out of his roots that something seems off, which I havent really noticed yet. 1.Fair Enough. 2. All those posts are something a mafia player could do, but the problem that arises is salmon is a new player who I don't think would pick up on stuff like this. It's pisslbe they're town but I won't let him go as easy as that. A VCA of 8 people is pretty big lol, sure scum are going to be on that but it be quite hard to find the 1 or 2 specific scum on said train. The quicker a train happens the more thrown off I and others will get when trying to do an Analysis. __________________ lastwhisper31 said: @lucianRoy, what do you think of Zymfs read on you and also Red_salmon? @grapefruit21, so im assuming Togs is also getting a replacement? @shinichi-kun What do you think of abu currently, and also pyro? @Zymf Why do you think so many people town read Lucian? lol Im going to wait for Alberts replacement before I start actively accusing him, honestly for me its hard to understand half the stuff he says. Pyro hasnt said much, but I ain't like his posts so far. I wanna hear more from abu before I decided anything oh him. |
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lastwhisper31 said: You and Lucian really love throwing around that word? and here you are again with your ambiguous comment to a double quote with no indication of who your talking about. Cause last time you were talking about me, but you quoted someone else's post, and you and lucian came at me for answering a question I didnt even believe was towards me, I gave me 2 cents and then you both commented how I didnt answer the question, when I didnt even know the question was directed at me. I pinged you lol Because I asked if there was a need to townread lucian this early? But you answered with Sleip not looking scummy or something |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: who is most, I'm curious, and Im not ready to be the self sacrifice? What exactly do you have on me? I got out of work, and I thought hey maybe start with some questions Where were the questions on D1? Well zymf and lucian was it? Also your voters already left you alone, so I'm guessing they are done. But things never really cleared up. I want to make sense of something...sooo.. change vote: lastwhisper31 No where I will be honest there, but Im not much of a question asker, more of town hunter, and I can be pretty spontaneous with what I do, but man do you lock on to the most subtle things. Its funny how I can react to being accused, if your expecting some kind of answer to save them all, then you'll find nothing here, you can change a person that looks for the worst in anyone, I wont be changing your mind at this point it seems. |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: You and Lucian really love throwing around that word? and here you are again with your ambiguous comment to a double quote with no indication of who your talking about. Cause last time you were talking about me, but you quoted someone else's post, and you and lucian came at me for answering a question I didnt even believe was towards me, I gave me 2 cents and then you both commented how I didnt answer the question, when I didnt even know the question was directed at me. I pinged you lol Because I asked if there was a need to townread lucian this early? But you answered with Sleip not looking scummy or something Yep yep you quoted me, I am an idiot. Honestly dont really have an answer as to why I talked more about sleip in my answer. |
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lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: Where were the questions on D1? Well zymf and lucian was it? Also your voters already left you alone, so I'm guessing they are done. But things never really cleared up. I want to make sense of something...sooo.. change vote: lastwhisper31 No where I will be honest there, but Im not much of a question asker, more of town hunter, and I can be pretty spontaneous with what I do, but man do you lock on to the most subtle things. Its funny how I can react to being accused, if your expecting some kind of answer to save them all, then you'll find nothing here, you can change a person that looks for the worst in anyone, I wont be changing your mind at this point it seems. I mean you gotta start from somewhere right? ...only that we should have already started on D1 But also call it womens intuition? :D. |
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Gwendolly said: Anyways I'm gonna go back to Suzunes case. Didnt she also point a finger at you? @lastwhisper31 Ya she did. |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: No where I will be honest there, but Im not much of a question asker, more of town hunter, and I can be pretty spontaneous with what I do, but man do you lock on to the most subtle things. Its funny how I can react to being accused, if your expecting some kind of answer to save them all, then you'll find nothing here, you can change a person that looks for the worst in anyone, I wont be changing your mind at this point it seems. I mean you gotta start from somewhere right? ...only that we should have already started on D1 But also call it womens intuition? :D. Lol, that can be a scary thing. |
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lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: I pinged you lol Because I asked if there was a need to townread lucian this early? But you answered with Sleip not looking scummy or something Yep yep you quoted me, I am an idiot. Honestly dont really have an answer as to why I talked more about sleip in my answer. @Shinichi-Kun off topic: your brother is so helpless: Can I keep him as a pet? |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: Yep yep you quoted me, I am an idiot. Honestly dont really have an answer as to why I talked more about sleip in my answer. @Shinichi-Kun off topic: your brother is so helpless: Can I keep him as a pet? Ask Roy, I manage to get everyone to point fingers at me, and then I freeze up. :( |
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Suzune said: A this point @ LastWhisper31 also picks up a ping because of his constant swaying and backing between targets. He seems to be trying to look like he is thinking about the game but in the end it really looks like swinging between people without making cases or just being a general backer of everyone else. He has an opinion about everyone but it reads as the opposite of what the person above them were talking even if it s a 180 from their last post. This one is worth watching. This is what I meant too actually |
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lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: I pinged you lol Because I asked if there was a need to townread lucian this early? But you answered with Sleip not looking scummy or something Yep yep you quoted me, I am an idiot. Honestly dont really have an answer as to why I talked more about sleip in my answer. But seriously....dont play the idiot card on me xD edit: you can play it once but not twice! |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: Yep yep you quoted me, I am an idiot. Honestly dont really have an answer as to why I talked more about sleip in my answer. But seriously....dont play the idiot card on me xD edit: you can play it once but not twice! I actually got away with it a lot in psycho pass lol Edit: Actually I cant really say that, I was on the chopping block a lot. |
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Gwendolly said: Suzune said: A this point @ LastWhisper31 also picks up a ping because of his constant swaying and backing between targets. He seems to be trying to look like he is thinking about the game but in the end it really looks like swinging between people without making cases or just being a general backer of everyone else. He has an opinion about everyone but it reads as the opposite of what the person above them were talking even if it s a 180 from their last post. This one is worth watching. This is what I meant too actually What can I say, Im really good at digging my own graves, but bad at getting out of them |
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LucianRoy said: Shinichi-Kun said: Would it have made a difference if those sheeping votes helped cause the lynch to pass? Yes, because Salmon could flip scum. As for Abu alignment it's possible he's scum but ive never really been able to figure out the mentality of his actions before. Possible to be scum ehh? Didn't know you had a scumread on him. Do you? Hmm I get what ya mean slightly, your annoyed that instead of trying to figure out the game state he literally came in just continue sheeping from the last phase. Yes. Ik it's a bad habit, but i've seen town did themselves in deep holes trying to defend themselves before leading to Mis lynches. That's because they do it wrong. Unlike me. :p Where do you Salmon was town defending themselves from being mislynched? i do think hes a viable lynch target if thats what your asking, so i guess i do in a sense, but there is also about 34 hours left so lets see what abu has to say.. Did i specifically state Salmon was town defending himself? Also reword that sentence im confused af. Also you dig yourself deeper too lmfao, either that or mafia night kills you XD. |
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Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: Woah pyro is a great player, hes just a nutcase sometimes and he likes to drink XD This lowkey pocketing again... Explain how this is me pocketing him? He just called pyro in experienced and I said the opposite. |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: who is most, I'm curious, and Im not ready to be the self sacrifice? What exactly do you have on me? I got out of work, and I thought hey maybe start with some questions Where were the questions on D1? Well zymf and lucian was it? Also your voters already left you alone, so I'm guessing they are done. But things never really cleared up. I want to make sense of something...sooo.. change vote: lastwhisper31 I see your vote and i understand it, but I am confused about what you want me and others to make sense of lol. If there is something you've noticed please share it with the rest of us. |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: Yep yep you quoted me, I am an idiot. Honestly dont really have an answer as to why I talked more about sleip in my answer. @Shinichi-Kun off topic: your brother is so helpless: Can I keep him as a pet? My brother is 10x smarter than me, hes just quite new to forum mafia lol. Just wait till he gains the experience and knowledge from all these games. |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: Yep yep you quoted me, I am an idiot. Honestly dont really have an answer as to why I talked more about sleip in my answer. But seriously....dont play the idiot card on me xD edit: you can play it once but not twice! Wheres the first time cause i am curious |
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Grapefruit21 said: Sorry for the lack of vote counts. Been busy. Will have one first thing in the morning. Effective immmeadiately @SuzakuTsubasa is replacing Togs. @SuzakuTsubasa Welcome, and with that I place my leave for the night. |
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| ok so ..... So I have been thinking for a while, why was suzune specifically targeted?? Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game. From my pov, wouldnt lucian or gwen or even zymf be better targets?(I will just focus on lucian for now since he was the mos vocal) Was she onto something like gwen said? Ill backread a little and see her posts. But for now, I have a few theories, -suzune was onto something that may have been more important than it seemed and she was quite dangerous. -lucian himself is scum and is directing votes here and there. -or killing lucian would mean that he was onto something and salmon is indeed scum...it can also be the opposite, lucian is far away from the correct reading and the mafia are letting him do as he pleases as it will just hurt town. So for now I think we need a sacrifice. vote:red_salmon If he is indeed scum then the mafia just tried to save him by letting lucian go free. If he is not scum, then I dont mind lynching lucian the next day. As many have noticed, him doing the most work(and apparently doing the most work out of us) is also kinda bad for town. We ourselves arent using our heads as much as lucian is, because he's mostly thinking for us. Dunno why but i feel the game may be more ...dunno the right word...easy?...if lucian becomes less vocal or posts like zymf as then we all will HAVE to start to think for ourselves. |
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| @lastwhisper31 #42 - It's hard to see Wisp as a new player with this kind of post. #93 - At this point, I still don't know where is Wisp standing with his reads. Feels like he's just pretending to look be doing something :/ Scummy #99 - Points out that he doesn't get Sleip's POV but there was no question directed to anyone to understand where they're coming from. Lack of gamesolving attempt. Scummy. #145 - Better post. Hmmm #68 - On the fence post from Wisp. Do both brothers have the peacemaker tendency? o.o - So he thinks Sleip's vote is extreme. Q: At this point, is Sleip town or scum? --- @Sleipnirr #51 - I think speculating about TPR before there's any evidence or indication that it exists is distracting. This used to be a red flag to me, but I've learnt that town does this too. So eh. #52 - This post makes Sleip a town-lean for me. #141 - Someone remembers my oneesama ^^ Yeah, I wanted to be like her too. To be able to rally town... and read someone so nicely~ I miss Queen. --- @LucianRoy #66 - This sounds defensive: It sounds almost like you're favoring the inactive RVS state of the game prior to post 30 or so. I don't think Sleip ment he favor the RVS state. He indicate nothing like that. He was pointing out an observation on Lucy's change of play and find it scummy due to the vote system. Though Lucy should be defending himself, this feels more like an attempt to scumread someone. If he does follow-up, it could be a town mindset. If none, this is likely an attempt to get others to view Sleip scummy.#193 - This feels like it completely dodged Gwen's question about townreading me. I don't see how he's dodging anything. Gwen question was 'the need to have reads'. She didn't say it was esp about you. I stand corrected. How do you know this though?Does 'weird' translate into 'scummy', or does it not warrant a vote? I like this question.--- @Shinichi-Kun #78 - Honestly I don't get why this is weird. Lucy always gives information stuff. #86 - Aha, the irony. Feels like you're the one trying so hard to earn town respect. #229"Certainly Gwennies townes is showing in some posts, but def not in a post that could be from either alignment." And which post is that? --- @Suzune-chan #101 - Ah... I used to be this. Being a cockroach, means being very hard to kill, is usually considered a good thing to have in the long run. I forgot when it was that people just started wanting to lynch me all game T_TWhat do you mean by this: "Unless the town is significantly powerful it is frowned upon to put the odds at 33%" Why is it bad? --- @Gwendolly #108 - Ha. Pretty bold way to say she doesn't approve of reads that early. More town lean than scum since I don't think scum would do that so openly. Unless Lucy's scum x') --- @Togs #133 - Why is Wisp a townlean? --- @Red_Salmon #168 - I agree on Sleip. Not so much on Wisp. I don't see the pro-town part of it. --- @AlbertinoDias #222 - Tino have same thoughts as mine. Though I don't explain everything as town too. I like to be a bit more reserved. Anyway, you're alright in my book. |
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lastwhisper31 said: Yeah i know. I'm on now and gonna do some catching up.@Sleipnirr @Wen294 Having gotta much from you two so far day 2. Join in on these awesome convos Also welcome to the game Tubacabra ^^ |
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Red_Salmon said: unvote (I thought I had unvoted my RVS. Mustve forgot about it) Halfway through my read from Page 3 onwards I had started suspecting Lucian as scum with how he had managed to get everyone's eyes off of him and onto LW just as a train had started to form on him. That too when the reason on voting on LW was weak. Plus being wary of people who have been town reading him calling it as white-knighting by scum is suspicious too. He seems overly aware of it. Rather uncomfortable by it. Normally one wouldn't even look too much into town reads. But nothing he says is specifically scummy. Then he asked people what they thought of the sleip vs his discussion, which is more towny. Was gonna vote on him but can't take chances right now. As for LW, he certainly did over react to the pressure. But not in the scummy way How this post comes across to me: "This is scummy and that is scummy too but nothing he says is scummy. I wanted to vote him but i'll not do that after all" Then you proceed not to commit by removing your vote... Red_Salmon said: @LucianRoy I did come to a conclusion. I said you were towny in the second para. The first para says why I was considering you to be scum. And it was all coming down to town reads. Normally scum would be the only ones who wouldn't want other scum to be buddying up to them in front of town as that could be allignment indicative if 1 got lynched. Your reaction to when other people read you as town was based on that understanding of mine and hence felt off. Cuz townies wouldnt bother with town reads. Now Shinichi also told me that you do this often. So more leaning towards town now. Sorry but i can't see that as a conclusion at all. Literally all you said that could let us know that you town read him was the "which is more towny" which is still a super weak form of expressing your read. It's only on 1, very small point. And aside from that 'more towny' =/= towny. Overall just a very weak way to say it. And aside from that everything above it completly gave off the feeling that you were scumreading him. Also putting the part about me agreeing with it aside, if you thought this was off then it would be worth persuing no? Instead of just taking chad's word for it and leaving it at that. It's like you had a scumread and gave up on it because it wasn't really convenient to keep it or something. |
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Red_Salmon said: Oe damn i almost voted you. Good thing you said that ._.Just wanted to let everyone know that the train on me has 7 votes right now, so the next one will certainly kill me, so think well before you vote (that's assuming the votes do not reset after EoD)(If the votes do reset then it's 4) I'm currently still backreading. @Ironace use the L-1 when you place the 7th vote dammit xD |
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AbuHumaid said: Says the guy that never placed a single fcking vote in the entire D1...I think we should agree to lynch someone at least 9 hours before phase change, last minutes lynches don't work on this setup |
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