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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Yunshui 雲水 07:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lily Lalremkimi Darnei

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Miss Femina Northeast India and model. A minor pageant winner of NE India and non notable to pass WP:NMODEL or WP:BASIC as no cult following or any in dept coverage of the subject. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:46, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:48, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:48, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:48, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 04:47, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete about a year and a half ago we decided that those who did not win a national beauty pageant needed lots of sources or another claim to be shown notable. We still have a bloated legacy of articles on contestants in US beauty pageants that needs to be gone through and those on non-notable people nominated for deletion. There are clearly still some floating around on non-notable people. However this does not mean we should let this plague of non-notable articles proliferate in the case of articles on people from India.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:17, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I would like to request that the page be not deleted. Lily is a public figure in India known and followed by more than a million people . she has currently more than 60k followers on Instagram and increasing.The article will help a lot of people know about her life.
  • Comment Please note Wikipedia is not a forum to promote/advertise any subject. A subject needs to be notable according to Wikipedia gudlines first and not the other way around as to have a page in Wikipedia so the subject would gain more notable. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:01, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment A public figure known and followed by millions is already notable. The page just aims to provide information about her life for people searching for her on the Internet. Promotion /advertisement not intended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lirlam (talk • contribs) 06:16, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Describing the article subject as a public figure is not enough; verifiable, reliable sources are needed to assert such a claim, and none do. As for the statement "The page just aims to provide information about her life for people searching for her on the Internet", that falls very clearly (almost a word-for-word replicate of what not to use Wikipedia for) within WP:NOTPROMO.--SamHolt6 (talk) 15:04, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep ; She is a public figure of India before she entered the pageant. She’s an up-and-coming star who has an almost ‘cult-like’ following during the recently concluded Femina Miss India 2018 and is still more notable than the winner. This page seems to aim at providing information about her life to those who are searching for her. And isn’t that the whole point of Wikipedia - To provide information? LazerBeam17 (talk) 03:23, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment Well sir, I just joined Wikipedia. I have already made edits on music pages. So that claim is as outrageous as it could be. This website aims at adding content or information relevant for the people. I’m just trying to do the best I can.

LazerBeam17 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:32, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment The subject has already met the criteria serial number 2 which state that the subject must have a large fan base or a significant cult following. As far as using the article as a promotion/advertisement tool is concerned, the subject doesn't need Wikipedia to do the same as there are other tools like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter etc.Just for general information, here is the subject's Instagram credentials https://www.instagram.com/lilydarnei/?hl=en , not to mention the fact that there are still millions who knows the subject but don't use Instagram. If a public figure known to 50 million people of Northeast India is not notable as per a few people, then I have no arguments against Wikipedia or anyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lirlam (talk • contribs) 06:02, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Debatable at best (50 million followers on Instagram is not a uniquely large amount, especially compared to other models), but what of the other two points listed by WP:NMODEL, and what of WP:GNG? It can easily be claimed that a subject is a public or popular figure, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia build around verifiable, reliable, in-depth sources, and none seem to exist that describe Darnei as such. Note also that Wikipedia does not hold Instagram followers to be a claim to significance, nor is Instagram a reliable source of information. I will agree with you that the subject does not need a Wikipedia article to promote themselves, as they already have Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. This leads me to cite WP:NOT again, as Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, especially when said information lacks sourcing, and cite WP:NOTFACEBOOK.--SamHolt6 (talk) 13:40, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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