Talk:WWE Raw premiere on Netflix

Page rename

Can we please rename this article to "RAW Premiere on Netflix"? Whilst we will have to wait a little to see how it is listed on Netflix, this is the way that WWE, Triple H and others have been calling the special. It is also listed this way on the WWE tickets page; https://www.wwe.com/event/raw-premiere-on-netflix. Propork3455 (talk) 13:25, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 28 December 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. I see consensus for the alternate capitalization of WWE Raw premiere on Netflix. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 20:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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WWE Raw debut episode on Netflix → WWE RAW Premiere on Netflix – As listed above, this is currently the most credible name for the event. It is the name used by some WWE staff, as well as the name used on the WWE tickets site. Propork3455 (talk) 20:07, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Lowercase "premier"? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Lowercase "Raw premier" Raw hits in a search of google news are about 17,300 for premier v 13,200 for debut episode, so the proposed title is more common per WP:AT. It is also more concise. However sources lowercase premiere in prose (WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS). Cinderella157 (talk) 02:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC) Add: While Raw is often allcaps in sources, this is not so consistently done that we should use this style per MOS:TMCAPS. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

  I understand where you're coming from and I'm not against making that change. I just went by how the event's name was stylised, however, I wasn't able to find anything in WP:NCCAPS that relates to names of events. There was something I was able to find about naming of sports events, but was more niche than sports in general (MOS:CUE#). The only thing that stood out was:

  "Articles on competitions and other events should:

  Use the official name to the extent possible"

  Again, I would rather go by the stylisation that the WWE uses, but if WP doesn't generally stick to event naming in the same way, premiere can be made lowercase. Propork3455 (talk) 18:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  WP:NCCAPS is invoked by WP:AT and in turn, invokes MOS:CAPS. WWE is not an independent source. We don't rely on how it is capped by the WWE. To cap here, the term should be consistently capped in sources. It isn't. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:27, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• I support this change, especially as that is what WWE themselves are promoting the event as. --Zippo9310 (talk) 02:00, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support WWE have referred to this episode as the "Premiere" for the event listing, and have used it in plenty of articles for the lead up. Some examples here, here, and here. --Mechanical Elephant (talk) 18:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

  Providing additional sources for those that are undecided; some examples from online sports reporting and wrestling-related sites are here, here, and here. Propork3455 (talk) 16:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Support as “WWE Raw premiere on Netflix” per above comments re lowercasing “premiere” and because “Raw” is not an acronym (see MOS:TMCAPS). — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 17:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Good catch. BarrelProof? Cinderella157 (talk) 23:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I agree. I didn't notice that before. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, didn't notice the acronym thing either.

Also a note, there are italics in the current title since it is the title of a television series (see MOS:MAJORWORK). However, looking back at all special episodes of Raw (see also "Raw special episodes chronology" in this article), none of their article titles are italicised, so I suggest there do not need to be italics in this one either.

As for the two changes to caps, I believe I shouldn't change the proposed name as per WP:RM, even though that is currently the consensus, but please correct me if that is not the case. Propork3455 (talk) 18:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't be changed. The closer should read the close and identify the alternatives and where the consensus lies wrt the alternatives. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:35, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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