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Nov 7, 2024 8:01 PM
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Bell in near total despair mode. Freya has played this perfectly, and likely has eyes on everyone Bell used to know. It seems that their close bonds and causing some issues with the brainwashing.

Lying while dropping bits of truth while explaining Bell's memories is both genius and cruel. I suppose Hestia is the ace in the hole here, I'm just curious as to how and why she's immune to Freya's spell. But after thinking about it, if Freya is so in love with Bell, why deceive him with Syr to begin with? I can only assume that she was afraid of being rejected. Admittedly, a situation like this is usually a guy's dream. But I can guess how it'll all end, especially with how the OP clearly spoils some future events. I think I'd rather just have Freya join the Hestia familia if possible. Then everyone wins!

Some seem to have issues with all the gaslighting, but I'm hooked on how this will end up. Especially with all of Freya's schemes behind the scenes over the course of 5 seasons leading up to this.
Nov 7, 2024 8:02 PM

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All that gaslighting and torture, gosh damn, Freya and her entire familia suck!

Poor Bell, I feel for him being caught in that kind of nightmare.

Nov 7, 2024 8:05 PM
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This episode was a great showcase of the worst and best of Freya, for a lot of it I was hating her like when she fucked with Bell on that status update thing (of course there’s a potion that can fake that lol) or when she put Eina back under her spell after she briefly broke out of it, but then near the end we saw Freya being cute af, giggling on the bed and saying how she’s going to wear that dress to bed because Bell said she looked good in it, is she a manipulative gaslighting girlboss or a teenage girl with a crush lol, the duality of Freya. It really is hard to completely hate her, but I know whatever she has coming is well deserved, she needs to learn to just be part of Bell’s harem, not take him for herself lol.

And damn the Freya familia does things quite brutally, they straight up fight to the death all day everyday and then get revived by their cute pink haired nurse, heck maybe it ain’t so bad dying over and over if I get to be revived by her lol. Pretty insane stuff tho, for the way Freya acts with Bell you’d forget that this is her familia’s way of doing things, I feel bad for those fellas.
Nov 7, 2024 8:51 PM

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Is Freya still virgin or she had slept with others before?

She is one of the freaky ones just like Ishtar.
@majin_mark505 So she has high body count.
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Nov 7, 2024 9:26 PM
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Papa_Scorch said:
@majin_mark505 So she has high body count.

Yup even in the light novels before she came down from heaven looking for her Odr she was going crazy doing anything and everything with everyone
Nov 7, 2024 10:06 PM

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skipped half the episode , I just can't stand to this Manipulation shit , I will just skip or fast-forward the whole future episodes if this shit stay .
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Nov 7, 2024 10:21 PM

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Wild episode but it was fun. I am surprised Freya does not delete hestia.
Nov 7, 2024 10:27 PM

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Looks like I'm gonna watch Syr manipulating Bell's mind throughout this series... 😭😭😭😭😭

Oh, nice. Freya's mind manipulation isn't that perfect.

P.S. I had to watch this in a speed run, I can't take the manipulation plot... 😭😭😭😭😭
POOR BELL!!!
CrazyButNot4UNov 7, 2024 10:30 PM
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Nov 8, 2024 1:27 AM
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Yo, what. She defenitly shouldn't be able to update his status... Oh lol she explained it right after still you telling me Bell didn't feel that liquid walking down his back, plus it should reverse at some point right. At least Firebolt still works that technically serves as some amount of proof his memories are real. Though Freya is a fool regardless because with Bell it doesn't come down to rationality or proof, it's all about feeling for him and she's never gonna accomplish that. Even if she tries to melt his mind his heart defenitly won't love her. Eina is a real one but damn she gonna get herself in trouble, yeah rip. NAH her abusing Eina's book that's crazy. Man I want this to be over as soon as possible. I know for a fact Bell will never actually fall for her even if she completely grooms him but still. HALF A YEAR OF THIS SHIT?! man... whenever Bell does get to know the truth he's going to hate her guts man.
Nov 8, 2024 2:34 AM

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That goddess is a freak for sure, Bell really gotta get out of that situation. At least he's getting some training too ig?

Freya be using that logbook too dang, perfect timing for her, bad for Bell coz Freya could gaslight him further. GL to Bell, don't lose you way.

Never ending plan to watch list...

Nov 8, 2024 2:43 AM
🥊 CHAMPION 🥊

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Freya is a very naughty goddess!
Bell is doubting, bad way men!!
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Nov 8, 2024 3:20 AM
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fk you bitch freya
Nov 8, 2024 3:23 AM
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Yeah, I don't think I can watch it anymore. For me, this type of plotline is so painful to watch I just cannot stand it.

What are you talking about? It's clear that Bell is important for her. Her heart certainly remembers; that's why she went up to try and remember that important someone in the wall. Not every person is super expressive with their romantic feelings. On the other hand, she really tried to comfort him last episode with her hand...
@TheJFamilia brother, stealing someone by force and make everyone forget him is fking disgusting thing to do, anyone who agree with freya i wish they live and feel the despair and the pain of having someone stolen by someone else
Nov 8, 2024 6:25 AM
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Frey's enjoying herself at the end almost made me forget that she brainwashed an entire city.
@IFinallyMadeAMAL yeah made me remember the "Syr"
Nov 8, 2024 7:17 AM

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Holy fuck, this is the craziest gaslighting scheme in history. It felt really uncomfortable to watch, in a good writing kind of way of course.

If there are still any doubts that Ais has special feelings for Bell then look no further than Ais still coming to their usual spot for training even if she doesn't remember him.

Heith seems cool, besides being an accomplice in the gaslighting. Freya Familia's training is legit killing each other, Goddamn.

Eina starting to remember Bell was sweet, but Freya really pulled up that quick on her lmao. She can immediately sense when someone's breaking out of her charm, that's crazy.

Freya's love for Bell definitely seems pure and genuine, I mean she did try as Syr first, but the gaslighting is still absolutely insane. Freya's reaction to Bell at the end was really adorable though... FUCK.
Nov 8, 2024 8:56 AM

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amazing episode, Freya successfully secured the best girl title again
Nov 8, 2024 9:22 AM
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As a Yandere lover, I'm conflicted... If only Freya is not freaky goddess like Ishtar that do it with everyone then I think I can like her a little.

my preference aside, another banger episode, can't wait next week
Nov 8, 2024 11:08 AM
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Freya is as bad as Big Brother Trying to convince you that everything Freya tells you is true and everything you know i wrong
Nov 8, 2024 2:27 PM
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Does anyone else think that the MC personality is one of the worst if not the worst thing in this Anime?
I love the story line and almost all other characters, but his crying baby/ screaming widow nature drive me crazy 🤦‍♂️
Nov 8, 2024 5:35 PM
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forget Hestia, Freya can fix me anytime
Nov 8, 2024 6:08 PM

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@TheJFamilia brother, stealing someone by force and make everyone forget him is fking disgusting thing to do, anyone who agree with freya i wish they live and feel the despair and the pain of having someone stolen by someone else
@2oe I agree. It is disgusting. I just realized that I replied to the wrong comment. I was referring to Ais, not Freya. The commentator was saying that she hasn't shown feelings for Bell.
Nov 8, 2024 6:10 PM

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Ngl Bell constantly cockblocking himself is getting annoying. Saving up his virginity for Ais, who hasn't really shown any kind of romantic affection for him, is such a stupid concept/excuse, but I guess the cost of keeping the age rating low is ridiculousness like this. It also recreates the same issue Welf has criticised Bell for a few episodes ago, where his running away of those romantic confessions makes everyone lose all respect for the character.
@Dete What are you talking about? It's clear that Bell is important for her. Her heart certainly remembers; that's why she went up to try and remember that important someone in the wall. Not every person is super expressive with their romantic feelings. On the other hand, she really tried to comfort him last episode with her hand...
Nov 8, 2024 7:45 PM
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Freya is a full gaslighting, psychological abuser. And as easy as it is to root for Bell to not be taken in by this trap from the outside, how easy would it be to simply accept the lies Freya is telling if we were in Bell's shoes.

Her reaction to his compliment was even so dang cute if she wasn't also clearly, Literally crazy for him.
Nov 9, 2024 4:46 AM
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Interesting seeing Freya manipulate Bell
Nov 9, 2024 6:34 AM
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freya me irrita. Odeio feitiços mentais.
Nov 9, 2024 7:23 AM
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Wow Freya's charm really manipulate almost everyone. Even Bell questioning his own memories.
Nov 9, 2024 9:52 AM

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again: how in the hell will they escape this? when is the right time for hestia to give the message to hermes?

i partly really hate this because it reminds me of
. its so damn painful when the friends dont recognize you.
i am kinda enjoying that the manipulation is working on bell. i hope that he will fall to it and that he wont just snap out of it just like that but it will take serious work to get him back.
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Nov 9, 2024 10:59 AM

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At some point in this episode I just wanted it to end since I knew that nothing interesting would happen anymore.
Nov 9, 2024 3:38 PM
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This is a great recap episode even if mostly it is from the initiation of Freya. Her curse is so powerful that it provides her eyes everywhere to dispel any resistance with a bat of her eyelash. Even still, Bell is holding on though for how long, I'm not sure. Currently, there is no one to help him. Will he succumb before that time comes? I hope not.
Nov 9, 2024 3:58 PM
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The best from this season, along with the escape episode, but Bell keeps being boring.
Nov 9, 2024 6:13 PM

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Bell is about to find out why we have a wise saying "never stick your dick in crazy".
Nov 9, 2024 7:51 PM

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This episode was a piece of shit. It was boring and Bell proved himself as a worthless wimp and soy boy. I’m hoping it will pick up soon.
Nov 9, 2024 8:01 PM

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Ngl Bell constantly cockblocking himself is getting annoying. Saving up his virginity for Ais, who hasn't really shown any kind of romantic affection for him, is such a stupid concept/excuse, but I guess the cost of keeping the age rating low is ridiculousness like this. It also recreates the same issue Welf has criticised Bell for a few episodes ago, where his running away of those romantic confessions makes everyone lose all respect for the character.
@Dete I agree about this. Bell acting like this is both boring and disgusting. This is an enormous step back from the last 2 seasons. As a matter of fact it more boring than any harem I’ve seen. He’s such a pussy I’d be delighted to see one of Freya’s men run him through, castrate him and stuff the two peanuts into his screaming mouth.
Nov 10, 2024 1:20 AM

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Yeah, I don't think I can watch it anymore. For me, this type of plotline is so painful to watch I just cannot stand it.
@TasoM i agree. gaslighting/manipulation storylines like this one has go away heat with me. took me forever to get around to this week's
Nov 10, 2024 5:25 AM
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The gaslighting is crazy!!

Wow Horn is alive?

Freya even stole the logbooks from Eina.

Hermes saying giving the paper to him at the right time, but when is the right time for Hestia??


This is very painful to watch 😭
Bell is really suffering right now.
Nov 10, 2024 9:54 AM

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@animegamer245 Ah, so it’s the old “You didn’t like the episode, so you must be insane” routine. -yawn- Come on you can do better.

Also, some of us like ultra violence, and despise whiners. Bell is getting more action than most, and yet he continues being a freakish pussy.
Nov 10, 2024 10:31 AM

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@animegamer245

I’m fine, how about you?
Nov 10, 2024 11:12 AM
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Hopefully freya will get her comeuppance
Nov 10, 2024 1:42 PM

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Yes, please keep gaslighting Bell!

God, I love that face.


Freya Familia has some pretty brutal practices.

I like the pink-haired girl with the twintails a bit.

Does Freya's memory change doesn't work on any of her Familia members? Or she purposefully didn't change their memory? Did all her familia members pretend he is part of their familia, or just a few individuals?
Nov 10, 2024 7:51 PM

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WHAIT A SECOND, WHO THE HELL IS HEITH? THAT PINK HAIRED NURSE, I DON'T CARE IF SHE IS EVIL BECAUSE SHE REALLY IS KINDA BAD 🥵🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~
Btw, cry about it.

Nov 10, 2024 8:10 PM
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The fact that I'm getting this angry with Freya goes to show how good the righting. Can't imagine what it's like to go through the worst possible gaslight.
Nov 11, 2024 2:30 AM
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Hm now it's clear why the Freya Familia members are such aholes. They're encouraged by their goddess to not give a shite for others than her. Not much love at all in that Familia however you look at it.
Nov 11, 2024 4:45 PM

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Bell has never felt as alone as he does now, and this nightmare only seems to be getting worse for him. At least he’ll grow stronger by training even if it’s against his will. Freya getting excited like a girl experiencing her first love is honestly freaky after everything she’s done, but, in a way, it’s kind of cute too.
Nov 11, 2024 7:17 PM
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@animegamer245 Ah, so it’s the old “You didn’t like the episode, so you must be insane” routine. -yawn- Come on you can do better.

Also, some of us like ultra violence, and despise whiners. Bell is getting more action than most, and yet he continues being a freakish pussy.
@NoviSun If your complain is that Bell isn't fucking every girl out there for the sake of it then maybe you should be watching something different. Dude has been dedicated to the girl he likes since Season 1 and thats perfectly fine lol.
Nov 11, 2024 8:53 PM
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Dete said:
Ngl Bell constantly cockblocking himself is getting annoying. Saving up his virginity for Ais, who hasn't really shown any kind of romantic affection for him, is such a stupid concept/excuse, but I guess the cost of keeping the age rating low is ridiculousness like this. It also recreates the same issue Welf has criticised Bell for a few episodes ago, where his running away of those romantic confessions makes everyone lose all respect for the character.

"He's protecting what he holds dear and that's what I hate about the character" bro get real lmao
Nov 12, 2024 7:28 PM
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@animegamer245 Ah, so it’s the old “You didn’t like the episode, so you must be insane” routine. -yawn- Come on you can do better.

Also, some of us like ultra violence, and despise whiners. Bell is getting more action than most, and yet he continues being a freakish pussy.
@NoviSun I mean, we're at season 5 here. At this point, getting mad that Bell is a puss is on you.
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Nov 13, 2024 5:51 PM

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@majin_mark505 So she has high body count.

Yup even in the light novels before she came down from heaven looking for her Odr she was going crazy doing anything and everything with everyone
@majin_mark505 Damn, so she's for the streets and is basically the same picture as Ishtar. I honestly didn't mind Freya until yall told me. I just lost all respect for Freya since now all I see is her army of familia that she's overly familiar with. She doesn't deserve to be within 1 KM of someone as pure as Bell.
Nov 13, 2024 9:21 PM
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the fact that the people here hate on this 14 year old who is currently being mentally and physically tortured by a goddess to force him to love her bc he doesn't try to fuck her honestly tells me how much I don't bother listening to opinions here

Ais also does have feelings for Bell, just read sword oratoria.
Nov 14, 2024 1:09 PM
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Wow, Freya is really what you call a yandere, poor Bell being psychologically manipulated and he has to fight to death in this kind of school, they even changed his mark, I feel like Bell is gonna start becoming crazy because of all the false memories everywhere
Nov 14, 2024 7:32 PM

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Huh? A potion, that we never heard of, that allows Goddesses from other Familias to update/fake your status? Seriously? Come on now...
Also, how come Bell didn't notice half a liter of liquid being poured on his back?

sigh* And the gaslighting arc continues... You know? Maybe Season IV wasn't really that bad after all. Even with the countless plot conveniences and Ryuu's character writing getting obliterated in the process, it all was still miles better than what we are currently having so far.
Gotta admit tho, that seeing Freya in that white dress made the episode a bit more bearable. I guess I should hate her but I hate Bell more so... yeah. Quite the odd feeling the one I have for her character.
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