Talk:Eden Alene

RfC: Should the lead mention ethnic descent and Amharic transcription?

The consensus is that the lead should mention Eden Alene's ethnic descent (Ethiopian-Jewish) and the Amharic transcription of her name (ኤደን አለነ).

Cunard (talk) 01:40, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

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Should the lead mention Eden Alene's ethnic descent (Ethiopian-Jewish) and the Amharic transcription of her name (ኤደን አለነ)? RfC relisted by Cunard (talk) at 08:38, 9 March 2020 (UTC). ― Ætoms ^(⋯) 21:47, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Context: My edits have been undone twice, so this RfC is to avoid an edit war.

• Yes. Articles on people of mixed descent usually mention the person's origins in the lead. Examples of Eurovision entrants for whom this is the case include Elena Paparizou ("Greek-Swedish singer") and Vahe Tilbian ("Ethiopian singer of Armenian descent"). Therefore, this article should also state that Eden Alene is "an Ethiopian-Israeli singer" or "an Israeli singer of Ethiopian-Jewish descent". Secondly, besides the Hebrew transcription, the article should include the Amharic transcription of her name. Both her parents emigrated from Ethiopia, which means that the surname she inherited from her father (either a patronymic as conventional in Ethiopia, or a family name as conventional in Israel) was originally written in the Amharic script. Although Eden is arguably a Hebrew given name, it also exists in Amharic, written as ኤደን.¹ Ethiopian athletes with this name include Eden Gebrehana and Eden Bekele. Alene (አለነ) is an Amharic male given name² and therefore also a patronymic (see: Ethiopian naming conventions). Ethiopian athletes with this name include Alene Emere Reta, Shewarge Alene Amare and Romeha Alene. In Ethiopian media, Eden Alene's name is usually written in the Amharic script, as seen in Example 1 and Example 2. Therefore, the Amharic transcription of her name is valuable information that should be included in the lead. ― Ætoms ^(⋯) 21:47, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I believe normally we do not list ethnic identity in the lede unless that person is notable for that identity (like Anne Frank). —DIYeditor (talk) 01:44, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
• Yes It should be included. Idealigic (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
• Yes Seems appropriate in this situation. ~ HAL333 20:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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