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I have rewatched Dave’s videos on the topic of Tour and the DI a lot of times and I think that an in depth criticism of James’s videos should be made to make it clear via the page why people critique him Mormissen (talk) 07:28, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't let the gatekeepers put you off. It is obviously not OR to accurately report what a source says.
Do note that you're largely wasting your time here, though, because this page is regularly sanitised by Tour's supporters, regardless of how well-sourced any criticism is. (Indeed, when Tour's own words are too embarrassing to his side, they also will be judged to be unsuitable quotes and removed.) They have a lot invested in keeping up the appearance of a man of science whose creationist apologetics have weight. 2A00:23C5:CF37:4001:E416:6FD1:A898:8B9B (talk) 21:10, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What seems obvious to you may be clearly false to people with a clue. This is the case here. And those who reject the insertion of Tour's claims are not "Tour's supporters". I think he is full of shit, and Wikipedia's rules forbid us to be his megaphone. --Hob Gadling (talk) 08:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While im currently not in the mental headspace to comment much on this right now, I feel like saying “Wikipedia’s rules prevent us from being his megaphones” is probably also what Scientologists said before they were excluded from Wikipedia.
While I do feel I made the edit too editorialised due to my newness to Wikipedia editing, there is also a fair POV where it could have just been edited, instead of completely undone as it added important information Mormissen (talk) 08:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
