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Proposed merge of LGBT rights in Georgia into LGBT history in Georgia

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LGBT history in GeorgiaLGBTQ in Georgia

Following the suggestion by Bungle, and basing what I did in LGBT in Korea, merge both and rename to LGBT in Georgia (or LGBTQ in Georgia, per WP:CONSUB of LGBTQ). --MikutoH talk! 01:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 00:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Disambiguation, WikiProject Human rights, WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies, and WikiProject History have been notified of this discussion. --MikutoH talk! 01:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Georgia (U.S. state) and WikiProject Georgia (country) have been notified of this discussion. --MikutoH talk! 02:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I don't think the LGBTQ in foo constructions are helpful, and we should be moving away from them rather than creating more. There are currently two dabs to disambiguate two separate ambiguous titles; no more is needed.--Trystan (talk) 13:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to LGBTQ history in Georgia to match the title of the disambiguated articles, per the recent consensus for the those moves to add the "Q". I weakly oppose the merge and move as proposed; while combined dab pages for similar terms are certainly a thing, I am not sure it makes sense in this case. We have separate articles for "rights" and "history" so best to have the disambiguation pages separated analogously. I think LGBT in Georgia (and LGBTQ in Georgia can simply redirect to LGBT rights in Georgia as it does currently, and the two dab pages can be linked to each other via see also sections (not via a hatnote). Mdewman6 (talk) 23:29, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. One of the two linked articles isn't specifically about history, so this is a more general DAB page. And contrary to what's written above, there is no reason to add a qualifier at all. "LGBTQ in Georgia" is concise and grammatical.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're right. If they are merged, they would become three articles linked, as one is a redirect to each other. Not just that, LGBTQ rights in Georgia redirects to the country now by Chipmunkdavis. --MikutoH talk! 22:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Less by me than by automatic process of reversion, but I've turned that into a dab. Feel free to add it to the merge request. CMD (talk) 01:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - both nom LGBTQ in Georgia and the merge, oppose the move if the merge is not also conducted - if we are going to merge the dab topics, I think this is a good place to start, and I also agree that an RFC would be pertinent. Fewer dabs referring to the same topic seems like a win to me - our readers will benefit from seeing all the articles we have on the topic on a single page instead of having to hunt around for them, and I agree that the proposed title is suitably concise. ASUKITE 15:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support move to LGBTQ in Georgia. Theparties (talk) 00:22, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose: where is the noun? If we expand the acronym, we get: Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, [and] queer in Georgia. Pardon? That is ungrammatical and nonsensical. Are we discussing LGBTQ people? Topics? History? Rights? That's just as nonsensical as saying "Bisexual in Georgia" or "Blue in Georgia". If it's a title of an article, there has to be a noun in there somewhere, not just a list of adjectives. Some alternatives:
LGBTQ people in Georgia
LGBTQ topics in Georgia
But the proposed move in nonsensical; the title cannot be interpreted; it has no topic. Cremastra ‹ uc › 19:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I support this alternative (topics). --MikutoH talk! 21:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru@Asukite@Chipmunkdavis@Mdewman6@Raladic@Theparties what you think about this alternative? --MikutoH talk! 21:57, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I do not support the alternative. The name being disambiguated is LGBTQ history in Georgia because we have an article at LGBTQ history in Georgia (U.S. state). Since there is no claim the country is the primary topic for "LGBTQ history in Georgia", that base name must host a disambiguation page. As long as the US article is at that name. So move to add the Q per consensus elsewhere, but otherwise, this discussion is making the situation far more complicated than necessary. We have separate articles for "rights" and "history" so the disambiguation should follow suit and have separate dab pages for each term. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]